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The first task of the navigation computer is to derive and display course over ground (COG) and speed over ground (SOG). Because the system knows where the vessel was a few seconds ago and where it is now, the navigation computer can approximate SOG and COG. http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/thin...our-gps-system during a locally epic kayak paddle done as both down and back were downwind and with the tides, I used SOG n COG for course achieved. The SOG gave screen position for A to B The COG gave the hull’s sailing position to the wind and distance from COG I have a Lman like I have a silicone nylon rain parka. Always there. The Lman with pliers, pick file n knives …can opener save my ass 5-6 times a year. Lman replaced the unit when the can opener split. An Lman is meant to evolve with your needs. Need more pick ? grind …. This is SOG |
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The first task of the navigation computer is
to derive and display course over ground (COG) and speed over ground (SOG). OK, that is yet another SOG. I have a Lman like I have a silicone nylon rain parka. Always there. The Lman with pliers, pick file n knives …can opener save my ass 5-6 times a year. Lman replaced the unit when the can opener split. An Lman is meant to evolve with your needs. Need more pick ? grind …. I think the "Lman" idea is good. It is the Swiss army knife 2.0. I think the argument against the Lman was 1) the illusion that one could rely on it for everyday work, and 2) people getting it as an identity/image gadget/gimmick, while in practice not living up to the "man of action"/"always ready" pose they want to transmit by sporting it, which makes those guys pathetic in our eyes. This is something in the realm of humans, not the tool itself. Of course, you understood all that, so just sayin'... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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John B. wrote:
:On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg :wrote: :John B. writes: : : I had a similar discussion about those silly : "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for : multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. : :The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. :They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and :talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which :perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I :hope) claims they are for everyday work! :I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in :a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would :always get me to fix it :-) Well, he had the sense to use the right tool, then. I have one, and have carried a series of them for over 20 years. It's the wrong tool for almost every job, but its the tool you have, which makes it the best tool. -- It makes me feel good knowing that with extensive training, weight loss and a large capital expenditure, I can fly further than a flightless chicken. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 7/3/2017 3:32 AM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: John B. writes: I had a similar discussion about those silly "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I hope) claims they are for everyday work! I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would always get me to fix it :-) One gripe of mine is this: "Frank, you're better at that job. Would you do it?" I get that a lot. To me, it's punishment for competence and reward for laziness. Krygowski's Law: The more you know, the more they make you do. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 21:31:12 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote: John B. wrote: :On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg :wrote: :John B. writes: : : I had a similar discussion about those silly : "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for : multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. : :The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. :They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and :talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which :perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I :hope) claims they are for everyday work! :I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in :a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would :always get me to fix it :-) Well, he had the sense to use the right tool, then. I have one, and have carried a series of them for over 20 years. It's the wrong tool for almost every job, but its the tool you have, which makes it the best tool. I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold, and rapidly discovered that they weren't very efficient for any task. I reverted to a small tool kit of single use tools that worked far better. As for "the tool you have" what does that mean? If you have a mechanical device you can include a tool kit. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 21:00:54 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 7/3/2017 3:32 AM, John B. wrote: On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: John B. writes: I had a similar discussion about those silly "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I hope) claims they are for everyday work! I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would always get me to fix it :-) One gripe of mine is this: "Frank, you're better at that job. Would you do it?" I get that a lot. To me, it's punishment for competence and reward for laziness. Krygowski's Law: The more you know, the more they make you do. In the case I mentioned the guy was a sailor, a real one, and had made more voyages ferrying yachts then I'd sailed in my entire life and amazingly knew very little about how various mechanisms on a boat actually worked. But I suspect that those that know and can do often dig their own graves, as it were. Imagine, you are standing there chatting with a guy who is trying to get a winch to work. You see what he is doing wrong and say something like, "Here now, just flip that little lever the other way and it will work" He does and it does and you have suddenly become the guy to go to make winches work :-) As the years go by I have become more and more reticent. Now my usual comment is more on the lines of "Boy! You sure got a problem there haven't you?" -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
:On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 21:31:12 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt wrote: :John B. wrote: ::On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg ::wrote: : ::John B. writes: :: :: I had a similar discussion about those silly :: "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for :: multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. :: ::The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. ::They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and ::talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which ::perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I ::hope) claims they are for everyday work! : ::I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in ::a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would ::always get me to fix it :-) : :Well, he had the sense to use the right tool, then. I have one, and :have carried a series of them for over 20 years. It's the wrong tool :for almost every job, but its the tool you have, which makes it the :best tool. :I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold, and :rapidly discovered that they weren't very efficient for any task. I :reverted to a small tool kit of single use tools that worked far :better. As for "the tool you have" what does that mean? If you have a It's in my pocket. Always. :mechanical device you can include a tool kit. Sure. For my mechanical devices. Doesn't do any good when I'm not in one of my mechanical devices, or hiking, or at the park, or in someone's kitchen. -- sig 40 |
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John B. wrote:
I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold By the way, what is the deal with "Leatherman"? Is it really the original design? I heard of them just recently, maybe two years ago, in the posh mountaineering world, but my SOG and a couple of other such tools (i.e., combination plier + Swiss-army-knife style foldable stuff) I've had for ages. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 8:49:44 AM UTC-4, Emanuel Berg wrote:
John B. wrote: I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold By the way, what is the deal with "Leatherman"? Is it really the original design? I heard of them just recently, maybe two years ago, in the posh mountaineering world, but my SOG and a couple of other such tools (i.e., combination plier + Swiss-army-knife style foldable stuff) I've had for ages. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 too heavy for the mtns ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherman https://www.google.com/#tbm=shop&q=H...4991728 22264 https://www.google.com/search?site=i....0.jmOqn6PZBfk |
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