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Old June 30th 03, 10:55 PM
Sheldon Brown
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John Meerse wrote:

Looking for a pair of sealed bearings for a front Suntour Superbe pro
hub, from 1995-1996.

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These are standard industrial bearings, any decent bike shop should have
them, and if not, you can get them from a bearing supply house.

They will be identified by a number on the face of the bearing, probably
a 4 digit number beginning with 6. You may need a magnifying glass to
read the number. My guess is 6000 or 6001.

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Old July 4th 03, 01:31 AM
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Sheldon Brown wrote in message ...
John Meerse wrote:

Looking for a pair of sealed bearings for a front Suntour Superbe pro
hub, from 1995-1996.


These are standard industrial bearings


Weren't Superbe Pros those unusual kind of precision bearing where the
cone still screwed onto the axle? I think SunTour Cyclone hubs had
actual cartridge bearings as Sheldon describes, but the Superbe Pros
I've taken apart are not the same.
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Old July 6th 03, 05:05 AM
A Muzi
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Default WTB: Suntour superbe pro hub bearings

John Meerse wrote:
Looking for a pair of sealed bearings for a front Suntour Superbe pro
hub, from 1995-1996.


Sheldon Brown wrote in message

...
These are standard industrial bearings



"dianne_1234" wrote in message
om...
Weren't Superbe Pros those unusual kind of precision bearing where the
cone still screwed onto the axle? I think SunTour Cyclone hubs had
actual cartridge bearings as Sheldon describes, but the Superbe Pros
I've taken apart are not the same.


1992 was the last season of full production. In the 1992 book, Superbe Pro
and XC Pro are listed as using cartridge bearings "for the first time" but
the bearing size is not listed.
After removing the axle, just measure the bore and outer case with a caliper
if you cannot read the number on the seal.
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Old July 6th 03, 02:59 PM
dianne_1234
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"A Muzi" wrote in message ...
John Meerse wrote:
Looking for a pair of sealed bearings for a front Suntour Superbe pro
hub, from 1995-1996.


Sheldon Brown wrote in message

...
These are standard industrial bearings



"dianne_1234" wrote in message
om...
Weren't Superbe Pros those unusual kind of precision bearing where the
cone still screwed onto the axle? I think SunTour Cyclone hubs had
actual cartridge bearings as Sheldon describes, but the Superbe Pros
I've taken apart are not the same.


1992 was the last season of full production. In the 1992 book, Superbe Pro
and XC Pro are listed as using cartridge bearings "for the first time" but
the bearing size is not listed.
After removing the axle, just measure the bore and outer case with a caliper
if you cannot read the number on the seal.


If it is a cartridge bearing, then it's the SunTour standard 12x28x8
(ID, OD and width in mm).

But I'm certain most "sealed" Superbe Pro hubs used a precision
bearing whose inner race ("cone") was threaded directly onto the axle.
These are not cartridge bearings, though they have seals and precision
races reminiscent of cartridges. Of course I'm not talking about the
hubs from the seventies with ordinary cup 'n' cone bearings, nice as
they are.
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Old July 6th 03, 06:07 PM
logarto
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(dianne_1234) wrote in message news:

But I'm certain most "sealed" Superbe Pro hubs used a precision
bearing whose inner race ("cone") was threaded directly onto the axle.
These are not cartridge bearings, though they have seals and precision
races reminiscent of cartridges. Of course I'm not talking about the
hubs from the seventies with ordinary cup 'n' cone bearings, nice as
they are.


This one surfaces on this NG every couple of years and it's my
distinct pleasure to inform you that you are all correct except
possibly for Mr. Muzi's reference material where the dates are
concerned.

The last Superbe Pro hub and a corresponding high end hub product from
Specialized used a variant of the standard 6001 cartridge bearing
where the inner race and seal came out with the cone. Then you could
clean and regrease the ball bearings like any standard cone and cup
hubset, from one side at least. When this bearing wore out it was
indeed possible to replace it with a standard cartridge bearing of
that size. I did this proceedure exactly once and while it appeared
that you could seperate the original inner race from the threaded
"cone" I had a pair of the standard Specialized Hub "cones" at my
disposal so I didn't try. These hubs were being sold at least as far
back as 1988 and I'd place their introdution with the Cranksets
changing over to Shimano Bolt Circle dimensions. Before that the
Superbe Pro hubs were rebadged Sunshine Pro-Ams.

I have no idea how any of this applies to the still collectable
Superbe Pro Track Hubs, but I'd love to find out. Even more elusive
than this tidbit was the structural role of the grey plastic plugs
that went into the Sante' downtube shifters.
 




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