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  #11  
Old May 30th 08, 05:54 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Doug Bashford
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.



On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said about:
Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:


It is important to recognize anger as a natural,
human response to death.

Many years ago Mike Vandeman's brother was killed
in San Fransisco in a bike accedent.


...........big snip

Too bad it's 100% lies.


Do you deny your brother was killed in a
bike accedent, Mike?

How was your brother killed?
What did he die of?

But that's nothing new for mountain bikers, is
it?


Never been on a mountain bike. Could be I've been on
sci.env longer than you, however.

I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)



Oh really!? Since when is ****ing into a keyboard
and shaking yer fist at people , the same as
"working on creating wildlife habitat?"

8 Years? Where's your product?

Focus, Mike. Stop drugging down your anger with
feelsgood production-killing placebos and other
things of the Dark Side. Choose Life for a change.
It smells pretty good out here.
--Doug

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?





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  #12  
Old May 30th 08, 06:07 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #13  
Old May 30th 08, 06:53 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

On Fri, 30 May 2008 04:54:57 GMT, (Doug Bashford)
wrote:



On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said about:
Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:


It is important to recognize anger as a natural,
human response to death.

Many years ago Mike Vandeman's brother was killed
in San Fransisco in a bike accedent.


..........big snip

Too bad it's 100% lies.


Do you deny your brother was killed in a
bike accedent, Mike?


Yes. That is just one of your many LIES. That's how we know you are a
mountain biker.

How was your brother killed?
What did he die of?

But that's nothing new for mountain bikers, is
it?


Never been on a mountain bike. Could be I've been on
sci.env longer than you, however.

I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)



Oh really!? Since when is ****ing into a keyboard
and shaking yer fist at people , the same as
"working on creating wildlife habitat?"

8 Years? Where's your product?

Focus, Mike. Stop drugging down your anger with
feelsgood production-killing placebos and other
things of the Dark Side. Choose Life for a change.
It smells pretty good out here.
--Doug

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
...Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?




--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #14  
Old May 30th 08, 11:03 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
[email protected]
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

Doug, I can see your point in your posts for sure! Malignant
personality disorder is another way of describing a various group of
DSM dx. such as Peronality disorders, such as
Paranoid personality disorder
Borderline personality disorder
Antisocial personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Mental retardation

Any of which Mike has qualities but it would seem Borderline and
antisocial are strongly prevalent. Malignant simply implies they can
be damaging to other's psyche after awhile with there non-facts and
ways of life, such as mike proves daily. I now simply point out the
obvious to signal to several others. Don't take his material seriously
since it is not based on fact, rather the conflicts of his own mind.
and yeah...he's an asshole
  #15  
Old May 30th 08, 04:31 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Enoch[_2_]
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

On May 30, 3:03 am, "
wrote:
Doug, I can see your point in your posts for sure! Malignant
personality disorder is another way of describing a various group of
DSM dx. such as Peronality disorders, such as
Paranoid personality disorder
Borderline personality disorder
Antisocial personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Mental retardation

Any of which Mike has qualities but it would seem Borderline and
antisocial are strongly prevalent. Malignant simply implies they can
be damaging to other's psyche after awhile with there non-facts and
ways of life, such as mike proves daily. I now simply point out the
obvious to signal to several others. Don't take his material seriously
since it is not based on fact, rather the conflicts of his own mind.
and yeah...he's an asshole


This entire string of mt. bike vs. hiker is out of place and doesn't
belong in the Backcountry forum. It has nothing to do with the
backcountry, not even remotely. You guys should start a new forum
called "user conflict in the outdoors". I wish there were an
administrator to delete things you write before they are posted here,
or at least send them to another forum..
  #16  
Old May 30th 08, 04:52 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Ed Pirrero
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

On May 30, 8:31*am, Enoch wrote:
On May 30, 3:03 am, "
wrote:





Doug, I can see your point in your posts for sure! Malignant
personality disorder is another way of describing a various group of
DSM dx. such as Peronality disorders, such as
Paranoid personality disorder
Borderline personality disorder
Antisocial personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Mental retardation


Any of which Mike has qualities but it would seem Borderline and
antisocial are strongly prevalent. Malignant simply implies they can
be damaging to other's psyche after awhile with there non-facts and
ways of life, such as mike proves daily. I now simply point out the
obvious to signal to several others. Don't take his material seriously
since it is not based on fact, rather the conflicts of his own mind.
and yeah...he's an asshole


This entire string of mt. bike vs. hiker is out of place and doesn't
belong in the Backcountry forum. *It has nothing to do with the
backcountry, not even remotely. *You guys should start a new forum
called "user conflict in the outdoors". *I wish there were an
administrator to delete things you write before they are posted here,
or at least send them to another forum..- Hide quoted text -


You're obviously new here.

Google a bit. You'll find this crap has been x-posted widely for over
a decade. Learn to use your filters, or to ignore that which bothers
you.

Or, like the MTBers, go to www.spokejunkies.com, where Mike's
"oratory" has been effectively filtered.

E.P.
  #17  
Old May 30th 08, 05:40 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
di
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


"Enoch" wrote in message
news:1c53c1cd-e692-4954-8bba- Any of which Mike has qualities but it would
seem Borderline and

This entire string of mt. bike vs. hiker is out of place and doesn't
belong in the Backcountry forum. It has nothing to do with the
backcountry, not even remotely. You guys should start a new forum
called "user conflict in the outdoors". I wish there were an
administrator to delete things you write before they are posted here,
or at least send them to another forum..


It has nothing to do with Mountain Biking either, It's just Vandeman,
blowing off steam. He tried Mountain Biking once and could not do it, so
now he has a hard-on for all bikers regardless of where or what they ride.


  #18  
Old May 30th 08, 07:37 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Doug Bashford
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
In
On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:53:41 -0700, Mike Vandeman said about:
Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


On Fri, 30 May 2008 04:54:57 GMT, (Doug Bashford)
wrote:



On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said about:
Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:


It is important to recognize anger as a natural,
human response to death.

Many years ago Mike Vandeman's brother was killed
in San Fransisco in a bike accedent.


..........big snip

Too bad it's 100% lies.


Do you deny your brother was killed in a
bike accedent, Mike?


Yes. That is just one of your many LIES. That's how we know you are a
mountain biker.



That's not what you told me in email in 1994.

Ring any bells?


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Msg#: 36 Pvt Rec'd
From:
Read: Yes
Replied: No
To: Doug Bashford Mark:

......snip
Sincerely,

Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D.

@Via Squish 1.10 1:102/851, UTC
@Via QM 1:102/742, (v1.31)
@Via Node 1:102/524, (QM v1.00)
@Via Squish 1:102/138.0, UTC
@Via MsgTrack 1:102/129, UTC



How was your brother killed?
What did he die of?


Either you were lying then, or now.
Would you like me to post yer letter?



But that's nothing new for mountain bikers, is
it?


Never been on a mountain bike. Could be I've been on
sci.env longer than you, however.

I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)



Oh really!? Since when is ****ing into a keyboard
and shaking yer fist at people , the same as
"working on creating wildlife habitat?"

8 Years? Where's your product?


Well?


Focus, Mike. Stop drugging down your anger with
feelsgood production-killing placebos and other
things of the Dark Side. Choose Life for a change.
It smells pretty good out here.
--Doug

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?





  #19  
Old May 30th 08, 08:05 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Enoch[_2_]
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

On May 30, 8:52 am, Ed Pirrero wrote:
On May 30, 8:31 am, Enoch wrote:



On May 30, 3:03 am, "
wrote:


Doug, I can see your point in your posts for sure! Malignant
personality disorder is another way of describing a various group of
DSM dx. such as Peronality disorders, such as
Paranoid personality disorder
Borderline personality disorder
Antisocial personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Mental retardation


Any of which Mike has qualities but it would seem Borderline and
antisocial are strongly prevalent. Malignant simply implies they can
be damaging to other's psyche after awhile with there non-facts and
ways of life, such as mike proves daily. I now simply point out the
obvious to signal to several others. Don't take his material seriously
since it is not based on fact, rather the conflicts of his own mind.
and yeah...he's an asshole


This entire string of mt. bike vs. hiker is out of place and doesn't
belong in the Backcountry forum. It has nothing to do with the
backcountry, not even remotely. You guys should start a new forum
called "user conflict in the outdoors". I wish there were an
administrator to delete things you write before they are posted here,
or at least send them to another forum..- Hide quoted text -


You're obviously new here.

Google a bit. You'll find this crap has been x-posted widely for over
a decade. Learn to use your filters, or to ignore that which bothers
you.

Or, like the MTBers, go towww.spokejunkies.com, where Mike's
"oratory" has been effectively filtered.

E.P.


Yeah, I better figure out how to filter stuff quick, otherwise I won't
last here.
  #20  
Old May 31st 08, 01:58 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

So mike sent a false truth email in 1994? I can't believe he would
ever lie!
 




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