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nully wrote:
So Paul, are you saying that a dog walker on the path has a 'duty of care' to watch for cyclists moving faster than him, and to 'make way' (for want of a better phrase) if one comes along? I'm only asking for clarification here - if thats *not* your point then I do apologise and would love your correction No; assuming that the shared use path is wide enough to allow users to pass each other safely then dogs should be kept close in and preferably on the outside purely as a matter of consideration for others. In the same way that the cyclists should slow down if needing to pass at all closely. -- CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames |
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Paul Luton wrote:
nully wrote: So Paul, are you saying that a dog walker on the path has a 'duty of care' to watch for cyclists moving faster than him, and to 'make way' (for want of a better phrase) if one comes along? I'm only asking for clarification here - if thats *not* your point then I do apologise and would love your correction No; assuming that the shared use path is wide enough to allow users to pass each other safely then dogs should be kept close in and preferably on the outside purely as a matter of consideration for others. But what happens when the path *isn't* wide enough? |
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A.C.P.Crawshaw wrote:
nully wrote: So Paul, are you saying that a dog walker on the path has a 'duty of care' to watch for cyclists moving faster than him, and to 'make way' (for want of a better phrase) if one comes along? Would you expect a group of walkers on a narrow country road to give way when you come up behind them in your car? Yes, eventually. |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:03:20 +0100 someone who may be "Dave"
wrote this:- I nearly said something to a woman last week as I was on the towpath - I heard her saying to a chap that cyclists ought to slow down as the sign says to give way to other users as they go along at 50mph. She was refering to 2 kids in front of me who were going a bit faster than I was (10mph). The chap was walking 3 little dogs none of them on leads and one was 30 yards behind the others and kept stopping to crap. He of course wasn't going to walk back and clean it up as the signs say he has to Presumably the woman thinks that signs only apply to cyclists and would be upset (real or pretend) if advised of the hypocrisy of her position. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message
... On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:03:20 +0100 someone who may be "Dave" wrote this:- I nearly said something to a woman last week as I was on the towpath - I heard her saying to a chap that cyclists ought to slow down as the sign says to give way to other users as they go along at 50mph. She was refering to 2 kids in front of me who were going a bit faster than I was (10mph). The chap was walking 3 little dogs none of them on leads and one was 30 yards behind the others and kept stopping to crap. He of course wasn't going to walk back and clean it up as the signs say he has to Presumably the woman thinks that signs only apply to cyclists and would be upset (real or pretend) if advised of the hypocrisy of her position. Standard cognitive dissonance innit, as practiced by various trolls on this NG. |
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nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: bugbear wrote: HarryHill wrote: Anne-Marie Wilkins, 37, from Llandaff North, is starting a petition calling for the Taff Trail to be widened through Hailey Park after her dog Bonny was run over by a cyclist, who then immediately rode off. Paging "Judith", paging "Judith" ... BugBear You sure that you're paging the right 'person' there BB? Judith rarely calls in here, and is pleasant, Marc wrote: [ With even more luck the turd dispenser got lost forever, died and [the owner got put off buying another one. doesn't use foul language/personal abuse and Marc wrote: You are here to have the **** extracted out of you and to see whether it's possible to see spittle via text, it's your only function(s). usually makes a useful contribution. [On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:43:54 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: [snip [ You are right - not just a stupid concept - I believe that in general [ riding on pavements is illegal. Really, well why didn't you say so before? People could be killed. On the other hand "judith" ... Surely those blinkers must be hurting, Colin? No blinkers involved nully, I was pointing out the main differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who may have got the names mixed). I didn't think that including attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling amongst the list of "judith's" 'attributes' was necessary for correct identification. No sarcasm intended Colin, I was merely expressing my opinion that it was possible you were blinded to the actions of some regulars. I only 'selectively snipped' in order to cut down on the length of the message, but I'm sure you'll agree that reading the full posts that I snipped from will show I've not 'misrepresented' them in any way. As for trolling, are you aware of the expression that goes along the lines of "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"? No, no, no, nully. I wasn't accusing you of sarcasm etc I was pointing out the differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who had probably used the wrong name ie Judith in his post). As far as I'm concerned "judith" has used attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling etc on here on more than one occasion, hence my expansion on her 'attributes'. As my original reply to BB only concerned J and j and no other posters , blinkers (or any other posters comments etc) don't come into it. -- Colin N. Lincolnshire is mostly flat ... But the wind is mostly in your face |
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Colin Nelson wrote:
nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: bugbear wrote: HarryHill wrote: Anne-Marie Wilkins, 37, from Llandaff North, is starting a petition calling for the Taff Trail to be widened through Hailey Park after her dog Bonny was run over by a cyclist, who then immediately rode off. Paging "Judith", paging "Judith" ... BugBear You sure that you're paging the right 'person' there BB? Judith rarely calls in here, and is pleasant, Marc wrote: [ With even more luck the turd dispenser got lost forever, died and [the owner got put off buying another one. doesn't use foul language/personal abuse and Marc wrote: You are here to have the **** extracted out of you and to see whether it's possible to see spittle via text, it's your only function(s). usually makes a useful contribution. [On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:43:54 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: [snip [ You are right - not just a stupid concept - I believe that in general [ riding on pavements is illegal. Really, well why didn't you say so before? People could be killed. On the other hand "judith" ... Surely those blinkers must be hurting, Colin? No blinkers involved nully, I was pointing out the main differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who may have got the names mixed). I didn't think that including attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling amongst the list of "judith's" 'attributes' was necessary for correct identification. No sarcasm intended Colin, I was merely expressing my opinion that it was possible you were blinded to the actions of some regulars. I only 'selectively snipped' in order to cut down on the length of the message, but I'm sure you'll agree that reading the full posts that I snipped from will show I've not 'misrepresented' them in any way. As for trolling, are you aware of the expression that goes along the lines of "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"? No, no, no, nully. I wasn't accusing you of sarcasm etc I was pointing out the differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who had probably used the wrong name ie Judith in his post). As far as I'm concerned "judith" has used attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling etc on here on more than one occasion, hence my expansion on her 'attributes'. As my original reply to BB only concerned J and j and no other posters , blinkers (or any other posters comments etc) don't come into it. My apologies. I got it round me neck. |
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nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: nully wrote: Colin Nelson wrote: bugbear wrote: HarryHill wrote: Anne-Marie Wilkins, 37, from Llandaff North, is starting a petition calling for the Taff Trail to be widened through Hailey Park after her dog Bonny was run over by a cyclist, who then immediately rode off. Paging "Judith", paging "Judith" ... BugBear You sure that you're paging the right 'person' there BB? Judith rarely calls in here, and is pleasant, Marc wrote: [ With even more luck the turd dispenser got lost forever, died and [the owner got put off buying another one. doesn't use foul language/personal abuse and Marc wrote: You are here to have the **** extracted out of you and to see whether it's possible to see spittle via text, it's your only function(s). usually makes a useful contribution. [On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:43:54 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: [snip [ You are right - not just a stupid concept - I believe that in general [ riding on pavements is illegal. Really, well why didn't you say so before? People could be killed. On the other hand "judith" ... Surely those blinkers must be hurting, Colin? No blinkers involved nully, I was pointing out the main differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who may have got the names mixed). I didn't think that including attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling amongst the list of "judith's" 'attributes' was necessary for correct identification. No sarcasm intended Colin, I was merely expressing my opinion that it was possible you were blinded to the actions of some regulars. I only 'selectively snipped' in order to cut down on the length of the message, but I'm sure you'll agree that reading the full posts that I snipped from will show I've not 'misrepresented' them in any way. As for trolling, are you aware of the expression that goes along the lines of "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"? No, no, no, nully. I wasn't accusing you of sarcasm etc I was pointing out the differences between Judith and "judith" to BB (who had probably used the wrong name ie Judith in his post). As far as I'm concerned "judith" has used attempted sarcasm, selective snipping and trolling etc on here on more than one occasion, hence my expansion on her 'attributes'. As my original reply to BB only concerned J and j and no other posters , blinkers (or any other posters comments etc) don't come into it. My apologies. I got it round me neck. Not tooooo tightly I hope wink. -- Colin N. Lincolnshire is mostly flat ... But the wind is mostly in your face |
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On 18 Aug, 13:34, JNugent wrote:
A.C.P.Crawshaw wrote: nully wrote: So Paul, are you saying that a dog walker on the path has a 'duty of care' to watch for cyclists moving faster than him, and to 'make way' (for want of a better phrase) if one comes along? Would you expect a group of walkers on a narrow country road to give way when you come up behind them in your car? Yes, eventually. "There I was mountaineering walking along this narrow ledge in the Alps when all of a sudden I came face to face with this gorgeous blonde, I didn't know whether to block her passage or toss meself off" That got Max Miller banned from the BBC for 5 years, allegedly. There'll never be another- |
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Dave wrote:
"Peter Grange" wrote in message ... SNIP "Under Control" seems to mean something completely different to many dog walkers than it does to me. I personally believe that under control is on a shortish lead unlike the old dears who are on the canal bank with dog at one side and them at the other. I have sometimes seen dogs not on a lead that are very much under control. When I used to ride the B2B almost daily, I started to recognise the dogs I saw regularly, and learnt how predictable they were. OTOH there were some dogs on a short lead, which definitely were not under control of the owner. |
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