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Walking a bicycle into a store
On Apr 14, 6:22*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, Loss of control can happen while walking it. Seldom with serious consequences. thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."? I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian. |
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Walking a bicycle into a store
On Apr 14, 7:01*pm, "Simon Mason"
wrote: "dr6092" wrote in message ... I agree that a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked. I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Agreed - however in order to stay within the law, on the only bit of pavement on my commute that I use as a short cut, I will dismount and walk. It means that I have a much bigger presence when I pass an oncoming pedestrian and get in their way more, but at least I am obeying the letter of the law. -- Simon Mason You have considerably less kinetic energy whilst walking thus are less liable to inflict severe damage to whoever is unfortunate enough to collide with you. Aside from that in the event of any sort of action that could result in a claim or process of law you would automatically be in the wrong if you were riding on the pavement. |
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On Apr 14, 9:33*pm, NM wrote:
On Apr 14, 6:22*pm, dr6092 wrote: On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, Loss of control can happen while walking it. Seldom with serious consequences. thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."? I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian. As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief. |
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Walking a bicycle into a store
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but they are allowed. Doug. |
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On Apr 15, 7:53*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but they are allowed. Doug. And we are talking cycles, cycles are not wheelchairs, wheelchairs are for the disabled, cycles are not, what do you find so difficult to understand about that? The fact an individual disabled person finds it suitable to use a cycle does not make the cycle a general aid for the disabled thus it will not gain any concessions. Get over it. |
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On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but they are allowed. (a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable? [Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.] (b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable? |
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"dr6092" wrote in message ... Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."? I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian. As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief. I only get off and push on pavements - never for cyclist dismounts signs. -- Simon Mason |
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Walking a bicycle into a store
On 15/04/2012 16:55, Simon Mason wrote:
"dr6092" wrote in message ... Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."? I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian. As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief. I only get off and push on pavements - never for cyclist dismounts signs. What a rebel you are. |
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On Apr 15, 10:32*am, NM wrote:
On Apr 15, 7:53*am, Doug wrote: On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but they are allowed. Doug. And we are talking cycles, cycles are not wheelchairs, wheelchairs are for the disabled, cycles are not, what do you find so difficult to understand about that? What you find so difficult to understand is who decides which is for what and why. The fact an individual disabled person finds it suitable to use a cycle does not make the cycle a general aid for the disabled thus it will not gain any concessions. Get over it. So you admit then that disabled people who use bicycles are discriminated against? Doug. |
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Walking a bicycle into a store
On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:
On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote: On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, *wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, *wrote: . I am able to walk so respect local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety reasons is total nonsense. Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason, thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about that? As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but they are allowed. (a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable? [Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.] (b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable? What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are discriminated against too? Doug. |
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