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Old February 27th 05, 08:50 PM
MagillaGorilla
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What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?


Thanks,

Magilla
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Old February 27th 05, 10:12 PM
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?


Tell us.


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Old February 27th 05, 11:08 PM
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Carl Sundquist wrote:

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?



Tell us.



That's a good question, Carl. I'm glad you asked it. And the answer is
Tyler still keeps his gold medal in a red-felt lined jewelry box.

And Ekimov still has his silver...and that Aussie got nothing but
kangaroo dung in his back lawn.

Magilla
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Old February 28th 05, 12:43 AM
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Dear Haven, (oops, I mean Magilla),

Does Tyler have any trouble sleeping at night with the guilt?

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Old February 28th 05, 01:46 AM
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Patricio Carlos wrote:

Dear Haven, (oops, I mean Magilla),

Does Tyler have any trouble sleeping at night with the guilt?



Does the Australian scientists who claimed their test is 100% infallible
have any problems sleeping at night because of their lie?

Magilla
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Old February 28th 05, 02:54 AM
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Carl Sundquist wrote:

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?


Tell us.


http://www.tas-cas.org/en/medias/media3.htm

Viatcheslav Ekimov & Russian Olympic Committee v/IOC : this procedure,
initiated by the Russian Olympic Committee and Ekimov further to the
decision of the IOC not to amend the rankings of the time trial in
cycling at the Olympic Games (won by Tyler Hamilton), is now in its
preliminary phase (evidentiary proceedings). No hearing has been
scheduled yet.
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No mention of the Aussie suit, unless it's being run in conjunction
with the Russian one.

Probably they are waiting for the Vuelta decision. The precedent
would be Muehlegg and Lazutina, who both lost Olympic medals for
events where they passed the dope tests because they failed a later
test. The Olympics allow athletes to be stripped of all medals in
the case of a failed test. Since Tyler failed a test in a non-Olympic
event, that would be extending the precedent.

Bob Schwartz

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Old February 28th 05, 03:10 AM
MagillaGorilla
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Bob Schwartz wrote:

Carl Sundquist wrote:


"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?



Tell us.



http://www.tas-cas.org/en/medias/media3.htm

Viatcheslav Ekimov & Russian Olympic Committee v/IOC : this procedure,
initiated by the Russian Olympic Committee and Ekimov further to the
decision of the IOC not to amend the rankings of the time trial in
cycling at the Olympic Games (won by Tyler Hamilton), is now in its
preliminary phase (evidentiary proceedings). No hearing has been
scheduled yet.
--------------------


What case is there? Tyler didn't test positive in the Olympics. You
can't change the rules just because you don't like them. The rules say
if the B sample is lost or untestable, the A test cannot be validated
and is therefore considered negative.

Even if Tyler is found guilty this week, he will still get to keep his
gold medal.

Magilla
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Old February 28th 05, 03:20 AM
MagillaGorilla
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Bob Schwartz wrote:

Carl Sundquist wrote:


"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...

What ever happened to that lawsuit filed by the Russian and Aussie
federation against the IOC to take away Tyler's gold medal?

How many hundreds of thousands of Euros were WASTED on lawyers's fees by
those two federations that could have been better spent on grassroots
programs?



Tell us.



http://www.tas-cas.org/en/medias/media3.htm

Viatcheslav Ekimov & Russian Olympic Committee v/IOC : this procedure,
initiated by the Russian Olympic Committee and Ekimov further to the
decision of the IOC not to amend the rankings of the time trial in
cycling at the Olympic Games (won by Tyler Hamilton), is now in its
preliminary phase (evidentiary proceedings). No hearing has been
scheduled yet.
--------------------

No mention of the Aussie suit, unless it's being run in conjunction
with the Russian one.

Probably they are waiting for the Vuelta decision. The precedent
would be Muehlegg and Lazutina, who both lost Olympic medals for
events where they passed the dope tests because they failed a later
test. The Olympics allow athletes to be stripped of all medals in
the case of a failed test. Since Tyler failed a test in a non-Olympic
event, that would be extending the precedent.

Bob Schwartz



"Waiting for the Vuelta decision?" What does that have to do with
anything? The Vuelta occurred after Athens and is therefore irrelevant.

The Becky Scott precedent which you refer to has nothing to do with this
case because in that case the athletes stripped of their medals tested
positive BEFORE the Olympics, not after (and one was during the
Olympics, but in a different event). There is NO precedent - and will
never be a precedent - for being stripped of a medal for testing
positive in an event AFTER the Games because that would be irrelevant
(look up the definition of time as defined by Einstein).

Your legal analysis is so reckless and incorrect that I'm going to have
to request you never post about this topic again.

In Scott v. IOC, there the rules were on the side of Scott. In the
Hamilton case, the rules are on the side of Hamilton.

Tyler will keep his gold. It will be a unanimous decision.


Magilla
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Old February 28th 05, 03:54 AM
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HavenGorilla,
I cannot answer for some scientists I have never met.
Do we take your non-response as an admission of the afirmative?

Sure your husband will get to keep his gold, but his credibility is
another question.

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Old February 28th 05, 03:19 PM
Jonathan v.d. Sluis
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"MagillaGorilla" schreef in bericht
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"Waiting for the Vuelta decision?" What does that have to do with
anything? The Vuelta occurred after Athens and is therefore irrelevant.


If he doped in Spain, then perhaps he also did in Athens, where he did fail
a test, after all.


 




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