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Old September 29th 04, 06:27 AM
Phil, Squid-in-Training
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dabac wrote:
Sheldon Brown Wrote:


I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed)


It's not quite that straight forward, and being right handed is no
guarantee for being right footed. Left-handedness runs at about 10 %
of the population while goofy-footedness is at about 25%.


Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?

I mount from the left side, power out with the left foot after 180 degrees,
but do tricks and bunnyhop with my right foot forward.

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Old September 29th 04, 07:00 AM
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"Phil, Squid-in-Training" writes:

dabac wrote:
Sheldon Brown Wrote:


I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed)


It's not quite that straight forward, and being right handed is no
guarantee for being right footed. Left-handedness runs at about 10 %
of the population while goofy-footedness is at about 25%.


Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?


Interestingly, lots of people study handedness and footedness and
lateralization of the body in general. Although there are differences
based on where in the world one lives, 10% left handed and 75% left
footed is about right. Also, being "crossed" is more common among
left handers.

Using "left footed" and "footedness" on PubMed turns up lots of stuff.

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Old September 29th 04, 07:09 AM
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:27:21 GMT, "Phil, Squid-in-Training"
wrote:

dabac wrote:
Sheldon Brown Wrote:


I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed)


It's not quite that straight forward, and being right handed is no
guarantee for being right footed. Left-handedness runs at about 10 %
of the population while goofy-footedness is at about 25%.


Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?

I mount from the left side, power out with the left foot after 180 degrees,
but do tricks and bunnyhop with my right foot forward.


Dear Phil,

As has been discussed, your condition is nothing to be
ashamed of:

http://tinyurl.com/6phvt

You are more to be pitied by right-thinking people than
censured.

Console yourself that your wavering vote makes you
attractive to both parties at times like these.

Carl Fogel
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Old September 29th 04, 06:02 PM
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Jim Smith wrote in message ...
"Phil, Squid-in-Training" writes:

dabac wrote:
Sheldon Brown Wrote:


I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed)

It's not quite that straight forward, and being right handed is no
guarantee for being right footed. Left-handedness runs at about 10 %
of the population while goofy-footedness is at about 25%.


Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?


Interestingly, lots of people study handedness and footedness and
lateralization of the body in general. Although there are differences
based on where in the world one lives, 10% left handed and 75% left
footed is about right. Also, being "crossed" is more common among
left handers.

Using "left footed" and "footedness" on PubMed turns up lots of stuff.


When I was a kid learning to water ski, my dad did a simple test.
Stand straight up, hands and your side, and unexpectedly pushed me in
the chest. The leg you put behind you first is your "dominant" foot,
and the one to place as the rear leg on a single ski. Apparently it's
common practice because years later I saw another guy do the exact
same thing to someone he was teaching. Not sure if there's any
science there, but as a wife's tale it has some reach.

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Old September 29th 04, 06:37 PM
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You guys got me confused now...

First of all I thought the term "Goofy Foot" only applied to surfing,
skateboarding or snowboarding?
When standing on a board, regular would be left foot in front, and "Goofy
Foot" would be right foot in front.
Ask anyone who boards which is correct? And their answer would be "Whichever
feels right!"

Ok, now here's where I get confused:
If one were to apply this to cycling, right foot is regular, and left foot
is goofy foot? (opposite)
So which is correct? Whichever feels right.

I remember in a game of the 1961 World Series , Mickey Mantle hit a home
run batting right handed, and a few innings later, he hit a home run batting
left handed. After the game a news reporter asked Yogi Berra his comments on
Mantle hitting a home runs from both sides of the plate? Yogi's comment:
"That Mick, he's so amphibious!"

-tom the ambidextrous cyclist.





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Old September 30th 04, 11:58 AM
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Phil, Squid-in-Training Wrote:

Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?


Back in the days when snowboarding in general, and alpine snowboardin
in particular was still wildly experimental there used to b
assymetrical boards available, with roughly 25% being made for goof
riders. These days development in technique and technology have don
away with the need for assymetrical boards, much to the relief o
manufacturers and shops

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Old September 30th 04, 11:58 AM
dabac
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Phil, Squid-in-Training Wrote:

Where do these stats come from? At least the goofy-footedness part?


Back in the days when snowboarding in general, and alpine snowboardin
in particular was still wildly experimental there used to b
assymetrical boards available, with roughly 25% being made for goof
riders. These days development in technique and technology have don
away with the need for assymetrical boards, much to the relief o
manufacturers and shops

--
dabac

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Old September 30th 04, 04:02 PM
Bruce Jackson
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Sheldon Brown wrote in message ...

I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of
the bicycle


Right, the clean side.


Back when I raced having chain grease on your right calf was called
"Cat IV marks" (do they call them Cat V marks now?).

I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse
toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in
while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it
might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot
while underway.


I do the same thing and I have many more miles on toe clips and straps
than on clipless pedals. Getting into pedals still requires some skill
so it still makes sense to me to start with my left foot already
clipped in. I notice on rides that I'm now in the extreme minority.

I don't know if she's a goofy-footed coaster or not, since I can't
remember the last time she was on a freewheeling bike.


I know that I always bunny-hop and track stand with my left foot
forward so I think that makes me normal footed.

Speaking of Goofy...ever notice that Goofy is a biped, capable of
speach, while Pluto is clearly a dog...but their faces are identical
except for pigmentation? What's with that? Seems kinda goofy...


It has puzzled me a long time why Disney choose to include both an
anthropomorphic and normal dog. Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Huey, Dewey,
and Louie all walk upright, have arms and talk. If in this world all
animals act like people you would expect Goofy but Pluto is the odd
dog out.

Sheldon "Deep Thoughts" Brown


The thing I've been pondering lately is zebras. Is the zebra a black
animal with white stripes or a white animal with black stripes? In
a way I don't want to know as I've been using this as a rhetorical
question for when there is no clear answer to a question.

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| as being unwilling to learn. |
| -- Benjamin Franklin |
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Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
http://harriscyclery.com
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http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com


Bruce Jackson
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Old September 30th 04, 04:02 PM
Bruce Jackson
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Sheldon Brown wrote in message ...

I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of
the bicycle


Right, the clean side.


Back when I raced having chain grease on your right calf was called
"Cat IV marks" (do they call them Cat V marks now?).

I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm
right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse
toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in
while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it
might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot
while underway.


I do the same thing and I have many more miles on toe clips and straps
than on clipless pedals. Getting into pedals still requires some skill
so it still makes sense to me to start with my left foot already
clipped in. I notice on rides that I'm now in the extreme minority.

I don't know if she's a goofy-footed coaster or not, since I can't
remember the last time she was on a freewheeling bike.


I know that I always bunny-hop and track stand with my left foot
forward so I think that makes me normal footed.

Speaking of Goofy...ever notice that Goofy is a biped, capable of
speach, while Pluto is clearly a dog...but their faces are identical
except for pigmentation? What's with that? Seems kinda goofy...


It has puzzled me a long time why Disney choose to include both an
anthropomorphic and normal dog. Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Huey, Dewey,
and Louie all walk upright, have arms and talk. If in this world all
animals act like people you would expect Goofy but Pluto is the odd
dog out.

Sheldon "Deep Thoughts" Brown


The thing I've been pondering lately is zebras. Is the zebra a black
animal with white stripes or a white animal with black stripes? In
a way I don't want to know as I've been using this as a rhetorical
question for when there is no clear answer to a question.

+-------------------------------------------+
| Being ignorant is not so much a shame |
| as being unwilling to learn. |
| -- Benjamin Franklin |
+-------------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
http://harriscyclery.com
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com


Bruce Jackson
 




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