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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On Jun 2, 2:05*am, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 1, 10:53 pm, Dan O wrote: On Jun 1, 10:44 pm, Dan O wrote: On Jun 1, 10:35 pm, User Bp wrote: Amid all the scandals about doping in bicycle racing are there any quantitative estimates of how much difference the practice can make in a measurable way, such as one-hour time trial distance or something comparable. Does anybody have pointers to relevant data? It it makes a big enough difference to matter in daily life perhaps we should all consider it as therapy. 1% probably isn't worth trying, but 5% or 10% might be. 8-) Thanks for reading, bob prohaska I live from one cup of coffee to the next. As for the effect on records and data... I don't care. *It is what it is and what it will be. *Ride Bike! Re; daily life and chemical enhancement. *Have you seen those TV commercials for Abilify - s drug that's supposed to boost the effectiveness of your anti-depressant? *They're cartoon animation; the early versions that I saw featured a sad looking umbrella that represented th lady's depression. *The umbrella went with her everywhere. The latest version I've seen has dropped the umbrella. *Instead, a yellow pill is trying to get her out of bed and urge her along to get through the day; but it's tough (too tough). *So she goes to the doctor, who adds Abilify to her anti-depressant, and then the rest of the commercial shows her getting through the day "okay". *It's ****ing eerie. *I swear they use some kind of stop-motion animation effect to convey the zombie feeling. *She passes out copies at the office meeting, and sits through the meeting without wishing she was dead. Then it shows her at home, carrying a pitcher of lemonade and glasses across the patio - kind of floating in that weird stop-motion thing - past her husband cooking something at the grill. He glances up (sort of) and gives a wan smile as she passes. *Okay; could be worse; meh. Then she pours lemonade for the kids sitting at the table. **They* look up with the same wan smile - "Is mommy about to have another of her spells?" *Everybody* in these commercials is bereft of any significant signs of life, let alone passion. *Well, the doctor seems to have it together... but held well restrained in check. I understand this is probably necessary to seem credible to the target market - people *already* on anti-depressants who know damn well they're never going to wake up and want to sieze the day, but jeez louise, come on - dope *plus* dope booster gets you to this level of living!?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - just watch "side effects" by soderbergh ( on blu ray- wow ! the cinematography justified the medium) - part of the storyline/ plot deals with the effects of prescribed psychiactic drugs, and there is a point in the movie where you can see how the commercialization of this industry seeks to capitalize on the symptoms than a cure. one thing leads to another in other words. great movie. |
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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT), raamman
wrote: On Jun 2, 2:05*am, Dan O wrote: On Jun 1, 10:53 pm, Dan O wrote: On Jun 1, 10:44 pm, Dan O wrote: On Jun 1, 10:35 pm, User Bp wrote: Amid all the scandals about doping in bicycle racing are there any quantitative estimates of how much difference the practice can make in a measurable way, such as one-hour time trial distance or something comparable. Does anybody have pointers to relevant data? It it makes a big enough difference to matter in daily life perhaps we should all consider it as therapy. 1% probably isn't worth trying, but 5% or 10% might be. 8-) Thanks for reading, bob prohaska I live from one cup of coffee to the next. As for the effect on records and data... I don't care. *It is what it is and what it will be. *Ride Bike! Re; daily life and chemical enhancement. *Have you seen those TV commercials for Abilify - s drug that's supposed to boost the effectiveness of your anti-depressant? *They're cartoon animation; the early versions that I saw featured a sad looking umbrella that represented th lady's depression. *The umbrella went with her everywhere. The latest version I've seen has dropped the umbrella. *Instead, a yellow pill is trying to get her out of bed and urge her along to get through the day; but it's tough (too tough). *So she goes to the doctor, who adds Abilify to her anti-depressant, and then the rest of the commercial shows her getting through the day "okay". *It's ****ing eerie. *I swear they use some kind of stop-motion animation effect to convey the zombie feeling. *She passes out copies at the office meeting, and sits through the meeting without wishing she was dead. Then it shows her at home, carrying a pitcher of lemonade and glasses across the patio - kind of floating in that weird stop-motion thing - past her husband cooking something at the grill. He glances up (sort of) and gives a wan smile as she passes. *Okay; could be worse; meh. Then she pours lemonade for the kids sitting at the table. **They* look up with the same wan smile - "Is mommy about to have another of her spells?" *Everybody* in these commercials is bereft of any significant signs of life, let alone passion. *Well, the doctor seems to have it together... but held well restrained in check. I understand this is probably necessary to seem credible to the target market - people *already* on anti-depressants who know damn well they're never going to wake up and want to sieze the day, but jeez louise, come on - dope *plus* dope booster gets you to this level of living!?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - just watch "side effects" by soderbergh ( on blu ray- wow ! the cinematography justified the medium) - part of the storyline/ plot deals with the effects of prescribed psychiactic drugs, and there is a point in the movie where you can see how the commercialization of this industry seeks to capitalize on the symptoms than a cure. one thing leads to another in other words. great movie. Reality is a movie? -- Cheers, John B. |
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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On 03/06/13 10:39, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT), raamman wrote: just watch "side effects" by soderbergh ( on blu ray- wow ! the cinematography justified the medium) - part of the storyline/ plot deals with the effects of prescribed psychiactic drugs, and there is a point in the movie where you can see how the commercialization of this industry seeks to capitalize on the symptoms than a cure. one thing leads to another in other words. great movie. Reality is a movie? I heard from a cyclist, that reality is an illusion brought on by a lack of drugs. -- JS. |
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:50:16 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
On 03/06/13 10:39, John B. wrote: On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT), raamman wrote: just watch "side effects" by soderbergh ( on blu ray- wow ! the cinematography justified the medium) - part of the storyline/ plot deals with the effects of prescribed psychiactic drugs, and there is a point in the movie where you can see how the commercialization of this industry seeks to capitalize on the symptoms than a cure. one thing leads to another in other words. great movie. Reality is a movie? I heard from a cyclist, that reality is an illusion brought on by a lack of drugs. -- JS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ah yes...a eeeeeeeeeyayahahahah .....paraphrase https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...5&pf=p&pdl=300 BTW caffiene and beer are diuretics....a no good for cycling/marathoning/mtn climbing/swimming... increased stresses on organs become deadly. one need here is seperating stimulants used during rec riding...up to ? where the rec thins out and Pro where $$$ is at stake $$$ not earnable in other ways for these human riders who usually are not equipped for $$$ skils like the film. |
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On 03/06/13 11:01, datakoll wrote:
On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:50:16 PM UTC-4, James wrote: I heard from a cyclist, that reality is an illusion brought on by a lack of drugs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ah yes...a eeeeeeeeeyayahahahah .....paraphrase https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...5&pf=p&pdl=300 BTW caffiene and beer are diuretics....a no good for cycling/marathoning/mtn climbing/swimming... increased stresses on organs become deadly. one need here is seperating stimulants used during rec riding...up to ? where the rec thins out and Pro where $$$ is at stake $$$ not earnable in other ways for these human riders who usually are not equipped for $$$ skils like the film. The pros need diuretics to help flush out the roids before a test. -- JS |
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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:30:38 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
On 03/06/13 11:01, datakoll wrote: On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:50:16 PM UTC-4, James wrote: I heard from a cyclist, that reality is an illusion brought on by a lack of drugs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ah yes...a eeeeeeeeeyayahahahah .....paraphrase https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...5&pf=p&pdl=300 BTW caffiene and beer are diuretics....a no good for cycling/marathoning/mtn climbing/swimming... increased stresses on organs become deadly. one need here is seperating stimulants used during rec riding...up to ? where the rec thins out and Pro where $$$ is at stake $$$ not earnable in other ways for these human riders who usually are not equipped for $$$ skils like the film. The pros need diuretics to help flush out the roids before a test. -- JS ppppppppppppp retro under ? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&....fTTs aSRtuLU |
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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On Jun 2, 6:01 pm, datakoll wrote:
snip ah yes...a eeeeeeeeeyayahahahah .....paraphrase https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...r%20topics#hl=... BTW caffiene and beer are diuretics.... .... also mostly water. a no good for cycling/marathoning/mtn climbing/swimming... But yeah - not ideal fershure. The Camels are worse, though, also fershure. Could be worse yet. |
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On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:00:48 AM UTC-4, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:01 pm, datakoll wrote: snip ah yes...a eeeeeeeeeyayahahahah .....paraphrase https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...r%20topics#hl=... BTW caffiene and beer are diuretics.... ... also mostly water. a no good for cycling/marathoning/mtn climbing/swimming... But yeah - not ideal fershure. The Camels are worse, though, also fershure. Could be worse yet. .... so the Loo said, 'Not quiet Sir, the men ride the camel into town....' |
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Effect of doping on 1 hour time trial
On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:50:16 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
I heard from a cyclist, that reality is an illusion brought on by a lack of drugs. An appalling truth. AJ |
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