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Old January 22nd 13, 03:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7 years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that Lance won. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum
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Old January 22nd 13, 05:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 21, 9:37*pm, Phil wrote:
*I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7 years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that Lance won.. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum


they can leave it blank, but everyone will still know who won
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Old January 22nd 13, 10:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 22/01/2013 08:03, Davey Crockett wrote:
Phil a écrit profondement:

| I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7
| years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that
| Lance won. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk
| next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish
| lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They
| really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were
| probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also
| doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would
| say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while
| they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum

They'll probably just move them up.

These moves will sometimes be reported and sometimes not in the
journals and records sites.

The best place for info is Dominique Magniers "Mémoire du
Cyclisme" and he always footnotes déclassé and other vital info in
footnotes. See:
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/championnats/chpt_mondial_itt.php

This is a great site and most of it is freely available, but Davey
pays the 15 Euros - a guy who produces a site like that deserves
our support.

looks like a very good site, I'm seriously thinking about the 15 euros,
I see they've already got a report up on Cavendish winning the first San
Luis stage.

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Old January 22nd 13, 11:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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atriage a écrit profondement:

| looks like a very good site, I'm seriously thinking about the 15
| euros, I see they've already got a report up on Cavendish winning the
| first San Luis stage.


They had a nice but short obit. when Magni died.

He was the last of the old time Bikies

The traditional piccy of The True Lion of Flanders is there too.

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/news/news.php#19 octobre 2012

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Old January 22nd 13, 11:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Davey Crockett a écrit profondement:

| atriage a écrit profondement:

| | looks like a very good site, I'm seriously thinking about the 15
| | euros, I see they've already got a report up on Cavendish winning the
| | first San Luis stage.
|

| They had a nice but short obit. when Magni died.

| He was the last of the old time Bikies

| The traditional piccy of The True Lion of Flanders is there too.

| http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/news/news.php#19 octobre 2012

And when the Super****** can produce Palmarès like these, Davey
will be the first to sign the "Give LA back his Tour Wins"
petitionn to a certain Phatty from Soddem and Begorrah.

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/palmares/magni_fiorenzo.php

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Old January 22nd 13, 12:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 22/01/2013 10:31, Davey Crockett wrote:
Davey Crockett a écrit profondement:

| atriage a écrit profondement:

| | looks like a very good site, I'm seriously thinking about the 15
| | euros, I see they've already got a report up on Cavendish winning the
| | first San Luis stage.
|

| They had a nice but short obit. when Magni died.

| He was the last of the old time Bikies

| The traditional piccy of The True Lion of Flanders is there too.

| http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/news/news.php#19 octobre 2012

And when the Super****** can produce Palmarès like these, Davey
will be the first to sign the "Give LA back his Tour Wins"
petitionn to a certain Phatty from Soddem and Begorrah.

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/palmares/magni_fiorenzo.php


Impressive and all done on bicycles made of cast iron. Shame to see how
many of those races no longer exist
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Old January 22nd 13, 02:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:31:02 AM UTC-8, Davey Crockett wrote:
Davey Crockett a écrit profondement:



| atriage a écrit profondement:



| | looks like a very good site, I'm seriously thinking about the 15

| | euros, I see they've already got a report up on Cavendish winning the

| | first San Luis stage.

|



| They had a nice but short obit. when Magni died.



| He was the last of the old time Bikies



| The traditional piccy of The True Lion of Flanders is there too.



| http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/news/news.php#19 octobre 2012



And when the Super****** can produce Palmarès like these, Davey

will be the first to sign the "Give LA back his Tour Wins"

petitionn to a certain Phatty from Soddem and Begorrah.



http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/palmares/magni_fiorenzo.php



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The Flag of Hengest and Horsa

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Magilla would point out that Magni raced against part-time racing factory workers, so what's the big deal? Where is that monkey?
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Old January 22nd 13, 05:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 1/21/2013 8:37 PM, Phil wrote:
I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7 years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that Lance won. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum


What they did with Riis was remove his name and leave
it blank. Then they quietly added it back later.

Kind of funny that Riis is still recognized as a Tour
winner but LANCE isn't. I guess it pays to not be a
raging asshole.

F
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Old January 22nd 13, 06:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 22/01/2013 16:42, Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 1/21/2013 8:37 PM, Phil wrote:
I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7
years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that
Lance won. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk
next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish
lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They
really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were
probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also
doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would
say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while
they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum


What they did with Riis was remove his name and leave
it blank. Then they quietly added it back later.

Kind of funny that Riis is still recognized as a Tour
winner


Not to mention Ullrich and Pantani.

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Old January 23rd 13, 05:11 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 22, 11:42*am, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
On 1/21/2013 8:37 PM, Phil wrote:

* I mean what will the history books show? Just a big gap for those 7 years almost as if the tour was not run? They really cant show that Lance won. Perhaps his name will still appear but with a huge asterisk next to his name but then, I don't see how that would accomplish lance's demise. After all it would still appear as if he won. They really can't give the title to whoever came in second as they were probably doping as well. Giving the title to a runner up who was also doping would hardly be fair to Lance. But then the Lance haters would say that one would have to prove that the runner up was doping while they required no such thing to go after LA...It is a conundrum


What they did with Riis was remove his name and leave
it blank. Then they quietly added it back later.

Kind of funny that Riis is still recognized as a Tour
winner but LANCE isn't. I guess it pays to not be a
raging asshole.

F


riis was under no duress when he revealed he doped in 96
 




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