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Old January 17th 12, 04:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason
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Default TfL launches bid to make London's roads safer by emailing drivers & cyclists. separately

QUOTE:
As part of its efforts to make the capital's roads safer for cyclists,
Transport for London (TfL) has today emailed cyclists and drivers with
safety advice, no bad thing on the face of it. Except, TfL has caused
confusion and consternation by sending out at least three differently worded
emails on the subject, perhaps unintentionally underlining the 'us' and
'them' attitudes that bedevils the relationship between the users of
London's roads.

One of the emails that landed in the inbox of people signed up to TfL alerts
plus, we believe, registered members of the Barclays Cycle Hire Scheme,
appears addressed to cyclists, another to drivers, and the third. well,
we're
not sure, it seems to cover both.

To muddy the waters a bit further, we're aware that some of you out there
who are signed up to TfL alerts as both cyclists and drivers have received
the one apparently addressed to cyclists, but not the one to motorists.

Confusing, isn't it? We've shown the emails in question at the end of this
article.

It may seem, to some, a trivial issue, but there are serious aspects behind
it, particularly regarding the consistency and effective communication of
TfL's road safety message.

In sending out three separate emails, TfL risks underlining a perceived (and
misleading) 'us and them' division between cyclists and drivers - often, of
course, they are one and the same person - as well as creating conflicting
messages.

That's reinforced by the fact that the advice in the email we presume was
sent to drivers doesn't actually reflect the full content of what's on the
Look out for Cyclists page on TfL's own website.

That's not necessarily a bad thing - look below the picture on that page for
the text left out of the email and the first thing you'll find is a
reference to 'Mandatory Cycle Lanes.'

The term is best avoided since it reinforces the mistaken impression that
where there is such a lane, cyclists are obliged to use it. The word
'mandatory' in this context is actually directed at drivers, who are
required to keep out of the lane.

Last year, TfL asked the AA to review its advice regarding road safety
relating to motorists and cyclists sharing the rroad.

The advice, which you'll find here, was compiled with input from cycling
experts, expanding upon TfL's existing advice and removing those misleading
references to 'Mandatory Cycle Lanes' that now appear to have crept back in.

We can't be alone in thinking that a single email to all road users might
have been a better option, not least because it would help motorists
understand the advice given to cyclists, and vice-versa.

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Simon Mason

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Old January 17th 12, 11:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Beretie Wooster
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Default TfL launches bid to make London's roads safer by emailing drivers & cyclists. separately

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:22:53 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

QUOTE:
As part of its efforts to make the capital's roads safer for cyclists,
Transport for London (TfL) has today emailed cyclists and drivers with
safety advice, no bad thing on the face of it. Except, TfL has caused
confusion and consternation by sending out at least three differently worded
emails on the subject, perhaps unintentionally underlining the 'us' and
'them' attitudes that bedevils the relationship between the users of
London's roads.

One of the emails that landed in the inbox of people signed up to TfL alerts
plus, we believe, registered members of the Barclays Cycle Hire Scheme,
appears addressed to cyclists, another to drivers, and the third. well,
we're
not sure, it seems to cover both.

To muddy the waters a bit further, we're aware that some of you out there
who are signed up to TfL alerts as both cyclists and drivers have received
the one apparently addressed to cyclists, but not the one to motorists.

Confusing, isn't it? We've shown the emails in question at the end of this
article.

It may seem, to some, a trivial issue, but there are serious aspects behind
it, particularly regarding the consistency and effective communication of
TfL's road safety message.

In sending out three separate emails, TfL risks underlining a perceived (and
misleading) 'us and them' division between cyclists and drivers - often, of
course, they are one and the same person - as well as creating conflicting
messages.

That's reinforced by the fact that the advice in the email we presume was
sent to drivers doesn't actually reflect the full content of what's on the
Look out for Cyclists page on TfL's own website.

That's not necessarily a bad thing - look below the picture on that page for
the text left out of the email and the first thing you'll find is a
reference to 'Mandatory Cycle Lanes.'

The term is best avoided since it reinforces the mistaken impression that
where there is such a lane, cyclists are obliged to use it. The word
'mandatory' in this context is actually directed at drivers, who are
required to keep out of the lane.

Last year, TfL asked the AA to review its advice regarding road safety
relating to motorists and cyclists sharing the rroad.

The advice, which you'll find here, was compiled with input from cycling
experts, expanding upon TfL's existing advice and removing those misleading
references to 'Mandatory Cycle Lanes' that now appear to have crept back in.

We can't be alone in thinking that a single email to all road users might
have been a better option, not least because it would help motorists
understand the advice given to cyclists, and vice-versa.


This is the email I received.

=====Quote=====
Dear Mr Crispin,

I am writing to both cyclists and drivers to remind them to take care
on London's roads. Cyclists are reminded to: Be aware of blind spots
all around large vehicles. It's often safer to hang back Make eye
contact with drivers to make sure they have seen you Not ride through
red traffic lights. It?s dangerous and you can be fined £30 Allow
space between you and parked vehicles. Doors may be opened suddenly
Cycle training courses are available in most London boroughs.

For more information, please visit tfl.gov.uk/cyclesafety
Yours sincerely, Ben Plowden Director, Surface Planning
=====/Quote=====
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Old January 18th 12, 12:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Just zis Guy, you know?[_33_]
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Default TfL launches bid to make London's roads safer by emailing drivers & cyclists. separately

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:22:53 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

As part of its efforts to make the capital's roads safer for cyclists,
Transport for London (TfL) has today emailed cyclists and drivers with
safety advice, no bad thing on the face of it. Except, TfL has caused
confusion and consternation by sending out at least three differently worded
emails on the subject, perhaps unintentionally underlining the 'us' and
'them' attitudes that bedevils the relationship between the users of
London's roads.


Hmmm. I am registered for c-charge autopay and with TfL as a cyclist,
I received no emails at all.

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Old January 18th 12, 08:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Beretie Wooster
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Default TfL launches bid to make London's roads safer by emailing drivers & cyclists. separately

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:06:20 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:22:53 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

As part of its efforts to make the capital's roads safer for cyclists,
Transport for London (TfL) has today emailed cyclists and drivers with
safety advice, no bad thing on the face of it. Except, TfL has caused
confusion and consternation by sending out at least three differently worded
emails on the subject, perhaps unintentionally underlining the 'us' and
'them' attitudes that bedevils the relationship between the users of
London's roads.


Hmmm. I am registered for c-charge autopay and with TfL as a cyclist,
I received no emails at all.


There are some very frnk exchanges on this matter in the LCC cyclists'
Yahoo! groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southwarkcyclists/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lewishamcyclists/
 




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