When did tires get so expensive?

On Jan 9, 6:52 pm, AMuzi wrote:
RobertH wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:38 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

If you think 16 bucks for a quality, proven, name-brand tire is expensive,
then hold on tight once Cap 'n Tax and other Nanny State over-stepping
regulations (that couldn't pass legislatively, even last four years) take
hold. Once gas hits $5 or more, /everything's/ going through the roof.
(Gee, who will THAT hurt the worst?)
Your post seems to imply that energy prices are going up primarily due
to government regulations.

Which part of the last 30 years would you like us to expand
upon?

Whichever part you think supports a view that energy prices have been
rising primarily due to govt. regulation.

That would be a hilarious view. Is that the view you hold, for real?

?"RobertH" wrote in message
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On Jan 2, 11:38 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

If you think 16 bucks for a quality, proven, name-brand tire is
expensive,
then hold on tight once Cap 'n Tax and other Nanny State over-stepping
regulations (that couldn't pass legislatively, even last four years) take
hold. Once gas hits $5 or more, /everything's/ going through the roof.
(Gee, who will THAT hurt the worst?)

BS (not)

Your post seems to imply that energy prices are going up primarily due
to government regulations.

Imply? Hell, just come out and say it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

(Money quote, in more ways than one: "Under my plan of a cap and trade
system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

HTH!

On Jan 9, 10:13 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
?"RobertH" wrote in message

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On Jan 2, 11:38 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

If you think 16 bucks for a quality, proven, name-brand tire is
expensive,
then hold on tight once Cap 'n Tax and other Nanny State over-stepping
regulations (that couldn't pass legislatively, even last four years) take
hold. Once gas hits $5 or more, /everything's/ going through the roof.
(Gee, who will THAT hurt the worst?)

BS (not)
Your post seems to imply that energy prices are going up primarily due
to government regulations.

Imply? Hell, just come out and say it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

(Money quote, in more ways than one: "Under my plan of a cap and trade
system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

HTH!



You do realize that no "cap and trade" legislation has been passed, no
energy bill at all has been passed, and none seems to be on the
horizon, the whole idea is basically dead, yet energy prices have been
going up for many years and continue to?

But somehow "cap and trade" is the reason that energy prices are
rising?

That is some serious indoctrination.

?"RobertH" wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 10:13 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
?"RobertH" wrote in message

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On Jan 2, 11:38 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

If you think 16 bucks for a quality, proven, name-brand tire is
expensive,
then hold on tight once Cap 'n Tax and other Nanny State over-stepping
regulations (that couldn't pass legislatively, even last four years)
take
hold. Once gas hits $5 or more, /everything's/ going through the roof.
(Gee, who will THAT hurt the worst?)

BS (not)
Your post seems to imply that energy prices are going up primarily due
to government regulations.

Imply? Hell, just come out and say
it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

(Money quote, in more ways than one: "Under my plan of a cap and trade
system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

HTH!



You do realize that no "cap and trade" legislation has been passed, no
energy bill at all has been passed, and none seems to be on the
horizon, the whole idea is basically dead, yet energy prices have been
going up for many years and continue to?

But somehow "cap and trade" is the reason that energy prices are
rising?

That is some serious indoctrination.

Drilling moratoria, EPA regulating carbon emissions instead of elected
representatives passing legislation, no new refineries in over 30 years,
more money per gallon of gas going to taxes than producers, distributors or
retail dealers, rules, restrictions, fees, tariffs. Even windmills and
solar stymied over transmission lines. Nah, nothing to do with guvment.

BTW, there was a huge outcry years ago when gas /approached/ $3 a gallon.
Now there's silence. Hmmmm....what could be different?!? (Same goes for
war casualties, but no one cares about them any more.)

BS (known when seen)

On Jan 3, 7:03*am, Dan O wrote:
On Jan 2, 6:58 pm, SMS wrote:

I was out on a ride today with the spousal unit and two child units, and
daughter-unit blew a tire. I did a temporary fix with two (2) dollar
bills and proceeded to a nearby Performance Bike Shop. Got her a Ritchey
Tom Slick 26" x 1.4" which was $18 (less an 11% off promotion they were
having, so it was about $16). It's been a while since I bought a tire on
the spur of the moment, and was kind of surprised that the prices are so
high. On the Performance web site they have the Panaracer Urban Max for
$20, but while the picture shows 26" x 1.75" the drop down menu shows
26" x 1.25".

$20? *With an affinity for high thread counts and Italian racing
mystique, I had to have a pair of Vittoria's new Randoneeur Hyper at
around $40 each. *(They felt very good under the bike, BTW.) *With
less than a couple thousand miles on them, though, I rode over
something nasty while wiping my glasses and ruined the rear tire :-(

Be sure to post a single star review on amazon. I read them reviews
until the first
"I had a flat in the first X00 miles", then the tire is off my
wishlist/cart.
Negative reviews are really helpful. I'm spoiled by the flat free
performance of late
on my RR2Ps (thus RR3Ps are not in the picture)

RobertH wrote:

Bill Sornson wrote:

RobertH wrote:

Your post seems to imply that energy prices are going up primarily due
to government regulations.

Imply? *Hell, just come out and say it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

(Money quote, in more ways than one: *"Under my plan of a cap and trade
system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

HTH!

You do realize that no "cap and trade" legislation has been passed, no
energy bill at all has been passed, and none seems to be on the
horizon, the whole idea is basically dead, yet energy prices have been
going up for many years and continue to?

But somehow "cap and trade" is the reason that energy prices are
rising?

That is some serious indoctrination.

Bill still thinks Gee-dub was awesome. He's not a rational player.

On Jan 10, 1:18 am, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

Drilling moratoria,

Number of rigs and wells in the US has risen as price has gone up.

EPA regulating carbon emissions instead of elected
representatives passing legislation,

Oh yearh, the EPA are real ball-busters...

no new refineries in over 30 years,

This one always gets me. ..Bill, do you think building more chair
factories would lower the cost of wood? Why do you think building more
refineries will lower the cost of the raw material that is fed into
it? For gods sake thimk.

more money per gallon of gas going to taxes than producers, distributors or
retail dealers, rules, restrictions, fees, tariffs.

The average tax on a gallon of gas in the US is about 50-cent (fitty
cent), including state and federal taxes. So what the heck are you on
about. In Holland the tax is roughly 3.50 per gallon. Even Norway
taxes their fuel heavily, though, in sharp contrast to we here in the
US, they EXPORT the hell out of it.

Your narrative, which is quite common among a certain set, has no
basis in reality.

On Jan 10, 8:43*am, Chalo wrote:

Bill still thinks Gee-dub was awesome. *He's not a rational player.

At least GeeDub told us what he was going to do before he did it. New
guy says one thing, then does what GeeDub would have done.

RobertH wrote:

Chalo wrote:

Bill still thinks Gee-dub was awesome. *He's not a rational player.

At least GeeDub told us what he was going to do before he did it. New
guy says one thing, then does what GeeDub would have done.

Yep. But in Bill's view, somehow that makes him not only a leftist,
but a socialist.

On 1/10/2011 1:21 PM, RobertH wrote:
On Jan 10, 8:43 am, wrote:

Bill still thinks Gee-dub was awesome. He's not a rational player.

At least GeeDub told us what he was going to do before he did it. New
guy says one thing, then does what GeeDub would have done.

What, like "Mission Completed" ?

Although being a NOLA boy, the "Good job Brownie" one was my favorite.
New guy at least gives the impression that he's thinking first.