Parking Break - What are your thoughts on this?

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:25:46 -0700, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
The term for such an error ("He couldn't find the _dim_ in the _dime_
light") is "usage error", because a perfectly cromulent word is being
misused.

Thank you, "usage error" was the term for which I
was searching.

This sort of error, like malapropisms, must be nipped in the butt,

Err...well...umm...you made a slight error, there...

The colloquialism (sp?) is "nipped in the bud",
from cutting/pruning a plant growth at the bud to
stop that piece from growing.

I once left a voice mail for my boss telling him that
I would stay out of work because I was beginning to
get sick and that I wanted to nip it in the butt. My
mother happened to overhear, and corrected me. I was
a bit embarassed to show up at work the next day...

I really need to switch to a real newsreader like Tin,
instead of this silly integrated one in Opera. Then I
can filter my messages through a spell checker...so I
would know how to spell colloquialism.

--
Rick Onanian

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 04:46:08 GMT, Mark Hickey wrote:
Bet he never gets gas without setting the parking brake again...

I never park mine without setting the brake.

Tip for anybody without a limited-slip differential
in a pickup truck: The lightweight rear, combined
with a standard differential, can result in your
truck rolling away with a single tire skidding VERY
easily.

ALWAYS set the parking brake on pickup trucks
without limited-slip differential. If you park on
a steep hill, or a slippery surface (snowy/icy),
put it in 4wd (if equipped) and set the parking
brake before exiting the truck, as well as turning
the wheel towards a curb (if applicable). Without
4wd, use wheel chocks.

Yes, it will stay in 4wd with the truck turned off;
and the mechanical connection to the rear wheels,
combined with the parking brake, means you will
always have at least 3 wheels keeping the vehicle
stopped.

Trucks equipped with limited slip differentials
are slightly better off, because both rear wheels
are encouraged to turn in the SAME direction, but
the light weight in the rear of the truck still
means little traction.

I once parked my truck in 2wd on a snowy grade,
got out, and it started rolling down (just one
rear wheel sliding). I immediately jumped in,
stopped it, started the engine, put in in 4wd,
turned it off, set the brake, and was better.

I'm always scared to let others drive my truck
only for that reason...nobody I know sets the
parking brake, in any vehicle.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
--
Rick Onanian

In article ,
Rick Onanian wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:25:46 -0700, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
The term for such an error ("He couldn't find the _dim_ in the _dime_
light") is "usage error", because a perfectly cromulent word is being
misused.

Thank you, "usage error" was the term for which I
was searching.

This sort of error, like malapropisms, must be nipped in the butt,

Err...well...umm...you made a slight error, there...

The colloquialism (sp?) is "nipped in the bud",
from cutting/pruning a plant growth at the bud to
stop that piece from growing.

Yes. And what kind of error was that? It was a malapropism.

Interesting etymology to "malapropism." It comes from a character in a
Restoration comedy, Mrs. Malaprop, who makes these sorts of errors
(substituting similar-sounding words for the correct one):

http://www.riverdeep.net/current/200...malaprop.jhtml

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
...

Interesting etymology to "malapropism." It comes from a character in a
Restoration comedy, Mrs. Malaprop, who makes these sorts of errors
(substituting similar-sounding words for the correct one)

So in (almost) modern terms, there should be both "Dr. Irwin Coreyisms" and
"Norm Crosbyisms"?

Bill "not old enough to get my own references, of course" S.

Ryan Cousineau reported

Interesting etymology to "malapropism." It comes from a character in a
Restoration comedy, Mrs. Malaprop, who makes these sorts of errors
(substituting similar-sounding words for the correct one)

Sorni wrote:

So in (almost) modern terms, there should be both "Dr. Irwin Coreyisms" and
"Norm Crosbyisms"?

Sorta, except that "Malaprop" is a made up name from "mal apropos", so
the character's name itself _means_ "inappropriate."

Other characters in the play also have names that describe aspects of
their characters.

Sheldon "Etymologists _Don't_ Study Bugs" Brown
+-----------------------------------------+
| Man invented language to satisfy his |
| deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin |
+-----------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
http://harriscyclery.com
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

"Sheldon Brown" wrote in message
...
Ryan Cousineau reported

Interesting etymology to "malapropism." It comes from a character in a
Restoration comedy, Mrs. Malaprop, who makes these sorts of errors
(substituting similar-sounding words for the correct one)

Sorni wrote:

So in (almost) modern terms, there should be both "Dr. Irwin Coreyisms"
and
"Norm Crosbyisms"?

Sorta, except that "Malaprop" is a made up name from "mal apropos", so
the character's name itself _means_ "inappropriate."

Yeah, like, who didn't know THAT?

Bill "sheepishly skulking away now" S.

(Irwin Corey comes from the Latin "irc orie", meaning...I got nothin'.)

Rick Onanian wrote:
: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 04:46:08 GMT, Mark Hickey wrote:
: Bet he never gets gas without setting the parking brake again...

: I never park mine without setting the brake.

: Tip for anybody without a limited-slip differential
: in a pickup truck: The lightweight rear, combined
: with a standard differential, can result in your
: truck rolling away with a single tire skidding VERY
: easily.

Would that mean a parking brake on one wheel of a trike is not
enough either?

: I'm always scared to let others drive my truck
: only for that reason...nobody I know sets the
: parking brake, in any vehicle.

Well I don't always use it either, if the surface is very flat,
the engine on normal cars is a brake enough. And I can set my
trike so that it rolls into a safe place (or a solid object) if it
wants to...

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/hpv/hpv.html
varis at no spam please iki fi

On 22 Aug 2003 13:48:35 GMT,
wrote:
Would that mean a parking brake on one wheel of a trike is not
enough either?

I'm not familiar with trike technology; is there
a differential? If so, can you spin one wheel and
the other spins the opposite direction, or can
you spin one without the other? Or do both wheels
ratchet (like a single rear bicycle wheel)?

: only for that reason...nobody I know sets the
: parking brake, in any vehicle.

Well I don't always use it either, if the surface is very flat,
the engine on normal cars is a brake enough. And I can set my
trike so that it rolls into a safe place (or a solid object) if it
wants to...

I was speaking of automatic transmission vehicles,
but the issue is the same for manual.

Anyway, when you park without setting the brake,
and the car rolls that half inch or so that it
does while it settles, that's play in the CV
joints (if equipped) and/or U-joint in the
driveshaft (also if so equipped). When it stops
against the engine or auto-transmission's park
lock, it stresses and wears the aforementioned
joint; however, it's a very minor amount of
wear. Still, setting the brake saves that wear
(and of course, wears the parking brake system
instead).

It's important to aim your steering so that the
vehicle will roll somewhere safe in the event
that it does roll, whether it's a pedal powered
trike or a V8 powered pickup; it should be done
whether or not you set the brake.
--
Rick Onanian

In article ,
Rick Onanian wrote:

On 22 Aug 2003 13:48:35 GMT,
wrote:
Would that mean a parking brake on one wheel of a trike is not
enough either?

I'm not familiar with trike technology; is there
a differential? If so, can you spin one wheel and
the other spins the opposite direction, or can
you spin one without the other? Or do both wheels
ratchet (like a single rear bicycle wheel)?

He is talking about a tadpoke trike, in which there are two steered
wheels in front and a single driven rear wheel. You are thinking of a
delta with two rear wheels, which is the poorer solution. A delta has
poor directional stability, especially when braking, because of weight
transfer to the front. Deltas have either one driven wheel or a
differential; both have serious drawbacks.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland OR

Find a large " zip tie " or tie wrap cut the large end off. Squeeze
front or rear brake(your choice).insert tie into gap of lever, nice
snug fit, bike will not move with brake clamped. Keep "brake lock"
with your gear. Ken

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:47:48 -0500, "Stan Shankman"
wrote:

Greetings guys,

I took the kickstand off of my bike. I found that I never used it because I
always lock my bike to a post or bike-rack anyway. And if I did use it, I
was always at some risk that my bike would get knocked over. I always think
a bike looks better without a kickstand anyway. But, when parking, it is
often times a hassle getting a bike situated so it won't flop to one side or
the other. Think about it. When was the last time your bike fell over? I'm
betting that no matter how careful you are, that at one time or another -
Crash! Your bike has hit the ground! (Bummer.) And that ninety-nine out of a
hundred times, it has done so because both wheels are free and it's just
darn hard to make it stable. So wouldn't it make sense to have a parking
break?

My thought is that the ordinary front and rear calipers (one or the other,
or both) should be manufactured (or retrofitted) with some kind of lever
that when activated, would squeeze the brake pads against the wheels. This
same thing could also be accomplished by simply rigging up a normal
handlebar break-lever with some kind of "holder" - but so doing would keep
the break cable under constant tension. So I like the first idea better.

Obviously a parking break wouldn't be appropriate for all bikes. But hey,
for your average ride-around-town bike it seems like a good idea to me.

So, what do you guys think? Good idea, or bad? And if it is a good idea, why
have the manufacturers not already done it?

- Stan Shankman