14/15/14 vs. straight-gauge 15

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:11:59 +0000, Michael wrote:

I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge spokes.
I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me - 210 lb rider
on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?

210 pounds, disk brakes? I sure hope you have a _lot_ of those 15 gauge
spokes. I would complain, and get them re-built.

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Michael wrote:
I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me
- 210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?



Bad mistake by Colorado Cyclist. I'm sure if you call them, they'll
tell you some BS about how double-butted spokes 15/14/15 stretch and
get out of true more than 15 gauge single butted. But you have a right
to return them.



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"Michael" wrote in message
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I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me -
210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?

Are you sure they are not double butted spokes? The butting is not easily
seen and the taper is somewhat gradual, not abrupt. The butts are about 1~1
1/2" from either end.

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Michael wrote:
I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me -
210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?

You mean 14/15/14? I think that would be a better spoke for you than
15, yes.

--Paul

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I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me -
210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?

Send them back. Why pay for something you didn't order. Especially when
it is something inferior.
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"Dave Thompson" wrote
I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me -
210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions?

Are you sure they are not double butted spokes? The butting is not easily
seen and the taper is somewhat gradual, not abrupt. The butts are about 1~1
1/2" from either end.

You're right. I have another wheelset with 14/15/14 spokes where the
taper is very abrupt and easily visible. The DT spokes' taper is
extremely gradual; I can feel it with my fingers, but I can't see it
at all. Thanks.

Michael- I recently had wheels built by Colorado Cyclist. I specified black
DT
15/14/15 spokes, but the wheels came with straight-gauge 15-gauge
spokes. I'm concerned that these might not be strong enough for me -
210 lb rider on a road bike with disc brakes. Opinions? BRBR

Other than the fact they are not what you ordered...15g straights on a big
rider with disc brakes...not a good setup, IMHO-

Should be 36 hole(at least the rear) and 14/15, built well, of course.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

(Qui si parla Campagnolo) wrote

Should be 36 hole(at least the rear) and 14/15, built well, of course.

Why 36 holes? I guess what I'm asking is, at what point - rider
weight, riding style, disc brakes, etc. - do 36 holes become
necessary?

I've been riding 32-hole wheels (though not with disc brakes) for
years; the only problem I've had, two times, is a spoke pulling
through a rear drive-side spoke hole on hard-anodized rims, as
predicted by Jobst.

Michael- Why 36 holes? I guess what I'm asking is, at what point - rider
weight, riding style, disc brakes, etc. - do 36 holes become
necessary? BRBR

Most adult male riders shouold use at least a 36h rear. Geezzz, 4 spokes weigh
28 grams, but a 36 is stronger than 32, all else being the same. I will never
understand this reluctance toward 36h, but methinks it has soimething to do
with marketing and once again, trying to save $ by offering only 32 hole. A
local MO outfit doesn't even carry 36h hubs/rims anymore...altho they are easy
to get.

What disadvantage can you think of for 36 vs 32 hole??

For you(200 pounds?) and disc brakes???

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

David in the UK- It's the most robust equipment that is available without a
significant
price penalty. Why _not_ 36 holes, eh? BRBR

Indeed-reality, what a concept.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"