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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:11:06 -0500, Lindsay
wrote: No, there is solid evidence that Iraq was disarmed, and then there are flaky weaselings by the Bush cabal that he hadn't. You can say that over and over, but yet you can not provide one shred of credible evidence to back up your claim. Just like Saddam. Is that how it works now? You have to incontrovertibly prove a negative in order to make invasion wrong, rather than having to prove an assertion before invasion is right? It certainly explains the observed facts, but it makes for a rather dangerous world order. Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk |
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In rec.bicycles.misc Benjamin Weiner wrote:
: Do you have Vegemite, or is that strictly Australian? : That **** is a biological weapon of mass destruction if : I ever smelled one. I think we should invade Australia, : and NZ if necessary, to take over their Vegemite mines : before some tinhorn dictator (like the current Aussie PM) : uses them to hold the world hostage. vegemite, yuuummmmmm. don't forget marmite (it's almost as tasty). http://www.gty.org/~phil/images/marmite.jpg -- david reuteler |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:11:16 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: If you don't want to come to the US, fine. I won't be crying over your fear. Fear? No fear involved, I just have no reason to go there. England and English policies built the IRA! And American money kept them in arms. But that's different: they are "freedom fighters" not "terrorists". The difference is well known. As an American living in Canada most of my life it is interesting to hear otherwise sane people being so defensive; as if not wanting to visit what is rapidly becoming more and more a police state were an attack on them personally rather than a political body or ideology. Recommended reading: "And The Rock Cried Out" by Ray Bradbury jeffb |
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According to Howard Dean George Bush is a moderate, and to use his
exact quote, he said that "in his soul" Bush was a moderate. Needless to say, Howard Dean is trying to make America safe for extremists, and that is exactly what he will accomplish if he hands over the election to George Bush because no Democrat in his right mind will possibly vote for this crackpot, and that will clearly marginalize the Democratic party. As Governor, Howard Dean endorsed the National Governors Association policy opposing the Kyoto Protocol and recommending that the United States "not sign or ratify any agreement that would result in serious harm to the U.S. economy." For environmentalists, EP, under Dean's leadership, came to mean "Expedite Permits", rather than Environmental Protection. Business leaders were especially impressed with the way Dean went to bat for them against Vermont's stringent environmental regulations. Dean has even endorsed the Bush doctrine of preventive war, saying that he would not rule out using military force to disarm either North Korea or Iran, and that is perhaps why he is trying to defeat John Kerry -he is in effect seeking to re-elect George Bush, who thinks and acts the way he does. Dean's approach to criminal justice is regressive and draconian, and that is very common and typical of anybody with his extreme and overwhelming arrogance. The campaign of this would-be tyrant who thinks that he is entitled to control the Democratic Party because he is using the Internet to launder the money that special interest groups are secretely contributing, has peaked and crashed. http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/kerry.htm |
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In article , Kevan@mouse-
potato.com says... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:15:42 -0500, David Kerber from Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com wrote: In article , Kevan@mouse- potato.com says... On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:39:59 -0500, David Kerber from Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com wrote: Nobody said they were. But they pretty much all agreed that Saddam had WMD. The disagreement was what to do about it and when to do it. Did you fall into some cult of personality? Did politicians telling you something dissuade you from findong out the truth on your own? Why were you willing to trust a politician in a matter of life and death anyway? The *only* way I'm going to find out anything about WMD's in Saddam's control is from somebody else. I can't go over there and check the documents and dig for them myself. No, but you certainly don't have to trust politicians to tell you about them. How much do you trust politicians in other areas? It wasn't just the politicians. Hans Blix didn't believe he got rid of them either. .... -- Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying! REAL programmers write self-modifying code. |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:07:46 -0600, Kevan Smith
wrote: I sure can. My evidence: the U.N. inspectors verified the destruction of Iraq's arsenal. No they didn't. Please provide whatever evidence you made your incorrect assumption upon. |
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Lindsay wrote in message . ..
They are "anti-american" in a way because they believe in an overthrow of our capitalist society. That's great, capitalism and America are synonymous. Are capitalism and democracy the same? Turn right three times, you end up the same place if you had just turned left. --Keven. |
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In article ,
Lindsay wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:59:50 GMT, Howard Kveck wrote: While I don't agree with the thought that there was any real 'support' from France or Russia, what you say is essentially correct. However that would only matter in the scenario that Saddam comes through the war alive and in control of Iraq. I cannot imagine he ever thought the latter was even remotely possible. I still disagree with you on this. According to some of Saddam's cronies's they believed that France would be able to stop the US from going in. They even believed that if we went into Iraq we would never make it all the way to Baghdad. Why would they believe that? We didn't go that far last time. I can't remember where the hell I read it, but I saw something that quoted a source who had been involved with analysis of the interrogation of some of the Iraqi mucky-mucks as saying something along the lines of them telling you the sky was green to get themselves a better deal. I think it was very obvious in '91 that we were never going to go all the way to Baghdad, but it was also pretty obvious that we absolutely were this time. You are also assuming that Saddam thinks like a rational human being. Heh... Well, he's just about any negative thing you can describe a person as, but I think he's plenty rational. I don't think he'd have survived as long as he did if he weren't. -- tanx, Howard Said you hit Roddy Piper, and didn't get a hassle, Promised your girl filet mignon, then took her to White Castle! LL Cool J remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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