BiGHA Comments

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And
yes, that is how you correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround
on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I think not. All minor
'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of
simply better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of
bettering bicycle tourists. What's wrong with reimproving something
that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to
attempt, they are reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox
of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H


P.S.
Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

NiCK wrote:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And
yes, that is how you correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround
on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I think not. All minor
'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of
simply better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of
bettering bicycle tourists. What's wrong with reimproving something
that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to
attempt, they are reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox
of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H


P.S.
Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

So do you work for BiGHA's advertising agency [1], or are you just
trying to get a job there?

[1] The pretentious and atrocious writing style is (un)worthy of
advertising copywriter.

Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon

Nick: I think the comments about Bigha involve two areas. First is
price. It is pricey and sells at a cost close to what some of the top
end performance bents go for. Second is the impression that the
recumbent movement is moving more toward performance (speed, handling,
lighter weight, more aerodynamic, etc.) and this is a bike moving in
the opposite direction. As a comfort cycle its competition is found
in bikes costing thousands of dollars less. They may not have all the
googaws and whistles that Bigha does, but for someone entering into
bentdom they can buy two to four of the competition for what Bigha
costs. I think that all of us bent riders want a bent company to
succeed and most of us perceive such a narrow niche for this bike that
success is chancy (we have been wrong before). And when a bent
company fails then, image wise, the sport is affected. So, while a
lot of us wish them well, that doesn't mean we can't espouse our own
opinion of their marketing and product. It just seems like a heavy,
expensive cushy bent. Hopefully they are considered more like
Cadillacs than Packards.

Mike S.
St. Louis, Mo.

Barcroft Virginia
Barcroft Columbia
RANS Rocket

There was a BiGHA on eBay auctioned by a charity with no reserve. It sold
for $1,805.00. There were 50 bids with more than half of them from someone
bidding as nsacres. There is a Mr. Acres, John I think, who is the chief
executive of Bigha.

It was listed as a recreational bike rather than as a recumbent. BiGHA
seems to go to great lengths not to mention the word recumbent. Maybe
that's a good thing.

skip

It was actually listed as a "Go-Kart," something I doubt Bigha had
anything to do with. The charity or eBay was probably responsible for
listing (or mis-listing) the bike.

I guess I don't get the point of your post. Are you saying that a
Bigha is not worth its asking price? Most auction items do not go for
true market value, which is why you can often get a great deal on a
car, a house or anything else on auction. Only silly personal items,
like Princess Diana's toaster will get big bucks. If you're using this
charity auction as means of assessing Bigha's value, you are mistaken.

Geez, what has this come to? Bigha DONATES a bike to CHARITY and we
pick on them? Earth to A.R.B.R.!!!!

"skip" wrote in message ...
There was a BiGHA on eBay auctioned by a charity with no reserve. It sold
for $1,805.00. There were 50 bids with more than half of them from someone
bidding as nsacres. There is a Mr. Acres, John I think, who is the chief
executive of Bigha.

It was listed as a recreational bike rather than as a recumbent. BiGHA
seems to go to great lengths not to mention the word recumbent. Maybe
that's a good thing.

skip

Lawrence Turner wrote:

It was actually listed as a "Go-Kart," something I doubt Bigha had
anything to do with. The charity or eBay was probably responsible for
listing (or mis-listing) the bike.

I guess I don't get the point of your post. Are you saying that a
Bigha is not worth its asking price? Most auction items do not go for
true market value, which is why you can often get a great deal on a
car, a house or anything else on auction. Only silly personal items,
like Princess Diana's toaster will get big bucks. If you're using this
charity auction as means of assessing Bigha's value, you are mistaken.

Geez, what has this come to? Bigha DONATES a bike to CHARITY and we
pick on them? Earth to A.R.B.R.!!!!

"skip" wrote in message ...

There was a BiGHA on eBay auctioned by a charity with no reserve. It sold
for $1,805.00. There were 50 bids with more than half of them from someone
bidding as nsacres. There is a Mr. Acres, John I think, who is the chief
executive of Bigha.

It was listed as a recreational bike rather than as a recumbent. BiGHA
seems to go to great lengths not to mention the word recumbent. Maybe
that's a good thing.

skip

Who says Bigha donated it? Maybe someone bought it and found out what a
clunker it was and unloaded to a charity for a tax write off.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"We recognize, however dimly, that greater efficiency, ease, and
security may come at a substantial price in freedom, that law and order
can be a doublethink version of oppression, that individual liberties
surrendered for whatever good reason are freedom lost."
Walter Cronkite, in the preface to the 1984 edition of 1984

"Lawrence Turner" wrote in message
m...
It was actually listed as a "Go-Kart," something I doubt Bigha had
anything to do with. The charity or eBay was probably responsible for
listing (or mis-listing) the bike.

I guess I don't get the point of your post. Are you saying that a
Bigha is not worth its asking price? Most auction items do not go for
true market value, which is why you can often get a great deal on a
car, a house or anything else on auction. Only silly personal items,
like Princess Diana's toaster will get big bucks. If you're using this
charity auction as means of assessing Bigha's value, you are mistaken.

Geez, what has this come to? Bigha DONATES a bike to CHARITY and we
pick on them? Earth to A.R.B.R.!!!!


Just reporting the facts Mr. Turner. The point is whatever you choose to
make of the facts.

I do know it's a fact that Bay does not prepare the seller's listing for
their auction as you suggest. That's always the seller's responsibility.
In this case it was listing was for a "BiGHA Recreational Bike" as I stated
previously and not as a "go-kart" as you state in your post. The auction
number is 3634370495 if anyone wants to verify my statements.

Again the bike was sold for $1805.00 on a no reserve auction where there
were 50 bids with over half of them made by someone with the same last name
as the BiGHA CEO. Make of that whatever you wish or nothing at all.

The charity was WIRED Auctions for Starbright Foundation. Wired Auctions
would seem to be an arm of WIRED Magazine. I don't think it would be unusual
for the bike to come into WIRED's possession through an advertising
agreement of some sort with BiGHA. The Starbright Foundation is listed as a
charity benefiting sick children.

skip

Your post addesses a huge problem in bentdom.

Are we individual riders or part of a "movement," as you put it?

The day riding a recumbent entails joining a movement is the day I get
off the bike for good. Once something becomes a "movement," the
community becomes greater than the self - and people have to get
permission from the community before they can create or purchase the
bike of their choosing.

Your post seems to imply that Bigha should have consulted people such
as yourself before creating their product. I say kudos to Bigha for
breaking the status quo.

(mike s) wrote in message . com...
Nick: I think the comments about Bigha involve two areas. First is
price. It is pricey and sells at a cost close to what some of the top
end performance bents go for. Second is the impression that the
recumbent movement is moving more toward performance (speed, handling,
lighter weight, more aerodynamic, etc.) and this is a bike moving in
the opposite direction. As a comfort cycle its competition is found
in bikes costing thousands of dollars less. They may not have all the
googaws and whistles that Bigha does, but for someone entering into
bentdom they can buy two to four of the competition for what Bigha
costs. I think that all of us bent riders want a bent company to
succeed and most of us perceive such a narrow niche for this bike that
success is chancy (we have been wrong before). And when a bent
company fails then, image wise, the sport is affected. So, while a
lot of us wish them well, that doesn't mean we can't espouse our own
opinion of their marketing and product. It just seems like a heavy,
expensive cushy bent. Hopefully they are considered more like
Cadillacs than Packards.

Mike S.
St. Louis, Mo.

Barcroft Virginia
Barcroft Columbia
RANS Rocket

Tom Sherman wrote in message ...
NiCK wrote:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And
yes, that is how you correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround
on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I think not. All minor
'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of
simply better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of
bettering bicycle tourists. What's wrong with reimproving something
that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to
attempt, they are reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox
of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H


P.S.
Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

So do you work for BiGHA's advertising agency [1], or are you just
trying to get a job there?

[1] The pretentious and atrocious writing style is (un)worthy of
advertising copywriter.

Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon



I'm just making a point based from my perceptions on BiGHA, even if a
disagreeance is enevitable. And also i'm not an 'advertising
copywriter.

-- NiCK

NiCK wrote:

Tom Sherman wrote in message ...

NiCK wrote:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And
yes, that is how you correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround
on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I think not. All minor
'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of
simply better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of
bettering bicycle tourists. What's wrong with reimproving something
that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to
attempt, they are reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox
of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H


P.S.
Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

So do you work for BiGHA's advertising agency [1], or are you just
trying to get a job there?

[1] The pretentious and atrocious writing style is (un)worthy of
advertising copywriter.

Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon




I'm just making a point based from my perceptions on BiGHA, even if a
disagreeance is enevitable. And also i'm not an 'advertising
copywriter.

-- NiCK

Have you paid the full $3000.00 price for a Bigha?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

“In the old days being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody’s crazy.”
Charles Manson