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Cell Phones worse than DJs
Personally, I think the DJs of Clear Channel who made the offending remarks
should be brought up on some sort of charges ... but that's a side to the point I'd like to bring up. I think drivers with cell phones are a far worse threat to cyclists than these DJs could ever be. A year ago I was run down by one and spent 8 days in the hospital and spent many months in painful rehabilitation. Evidence seems to be mounting that they are a significant distraction to a driver. Just a thought for those who are tired of the DJ threads and need something else to obsess about. Bob C. |
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Robert Chambers wrote:
Personally, I think the DJs of Clear Channel who made the offending remarks should be brought up on some sort of charges ... but that's a side to the point I'd like to bring up. I think drivers with cell phones are a far worse threat to cyclists than these DJs could ever be. A year ago I was run down by one and spent 8 days in the hospital and spent many months in painful rehabilitation. Evidence seems to be mounting that they are a significant distraction to a driver. Just a thought for those who are tired of the DJ threads and need something else to obsess about. Bob C. The other day I was almost mowed down by a cyclist (I was walking), on an unlit general use path winding through a heavily treed area that blocked the moonlight and reduced visibility on the path to about four feet. The cyclist was wearing all black (business suit), had no lights, and was talking on a cellphone with one hand (making him unable to stop or apparently to steer properly). I literally had to dive off the path. He didn't stop riding or talking into the phone. Probably never noticed me (seing as how it was dark, he was moving fast and was obviously distracted, he could easily have mistaken me for a racoon). My point is that it's reckless people who are a threat, more than the specific things they do. I would definately agree that cellphones can be a hazard when used in traffic situations, but they can also be used responsibly, and sometimes people might need to make a call. I think it would be a shame if they were outlawed. I was once rear-ended at a red light by a guy who spilled his morning coffee and tried to clean it up without pulling over, but I don't hear anyone trying to outlaw eating and driving. I think we're more likely to start seeing SUVs with microwave ovens and mini-fridges. Please! Eat responsibly! If you are eating, let a friend drive or call a cab! Don't let the life you take be someone elses! adam |
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In article ers.com,
"Jacobe Hazzard" writes: My point is that it's reckless people who are a threat, more than the specific things they do. Which hearkens back to the thread about the air-miles-collectin', Nissan-hood-dentin' BMX kid. If, instead of colliding with a car, he had bowled-over an elderly pedestrian who was stricken with osteoporosis & a heart condition, or a stroller with an infant in it, the complexion of /that/ discussion would be radically different. I'm no big fan of Car Culture, myself. But even less so of wanton recklessness and general endangerment, regardless of whether or not [driving] a car is involved. cheers, Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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My point is that it's reckless people who are a threat, more than the specific things they do. I would definately agree that cellphones can be a hazard when used in traffic situations, but they can also be used responsibly, and sometimes people might need to make a call. I think it would be a shame if they were outlawed. I was once rear-ended at a red light by a guy who spilled his morning coffee and tried to clean it up without pulling over, but I don't hear anyone trying to outlaw eating and driving. I think we're more likely to start seeing SUVs with microwave ovens and mini-fridges. Please! Eat responsibly! If you are eating, let a friend drive or call a cab! Don't let the life you take be someone elses! adam I was on my bike, stopped at a light in town, and needed to turn left. I turned to see if the driver behind me was paying attention, and she was talking on a cell phone and kinda looking at the ceiling. That made me very nervous as I have seen people try to turn left while talking on a cell phone, and it isn't pretty! You said, "sometimes people might need to make a call" Jeez--they can pull over and stop the car to make the call if it's that important! Eating? It's not the same as talking on the phone and you know it--or maybe you're trying to be funny. When a person talks on a phone, their mind is occupied because they are having to make decisions. Eating is just shoveling food into your mouth. Pat in TX |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0600, "Pat" wrote:
would be a shame if they were outlawed. I was once rear-ended at a red light by a guy who spilled his morning coffee and tried to clean it up without Eating? It's not the same as talking on the phone and you know it--or maybe you're trying to be funny. When a person talks on a phone, their mind is occupied because they are having to make decisions. Eating is just shoveling food into your mouth. Maybe it is to you, but I do more than shovel -- I check to see that they didn't put anything I didn't ask for on my sandwich. I add salt to the fries. I put sauce on the taco. I try not to drop stuff on my shirt, lap, and seat when I bite in. It reportedly caused an accident, as shown in the quote above. Pat in TX -- Rick "Hungry" Onanian |
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Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0600,
, "Pat" wrote: When a person talks on a phone, their mind is occupied because they are having to make decisions. Eating is just shoveling food into your mouth. And keeping it out of your lap. Eating and drinking while driving are definitely distractions to the job at hand. That job, boring as it is, is 'watching out for the other guy'. -- zk |
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Yes ... indeed. Driving is a mundane and boring task. When I started this
thread, I picked on cell phones, but I could as easily have picked on eating, applying makeup ... shoot, I think it would be special if they'd a) not allow anyone under 20 or so to drive and b) especially not allow carloads of teenagers with a teenage driver. But really, I was just trying to point out that, if we want to obsess about something, we have lots more we can obsess about than what a couple of idiot DJs have to say. While I'd never condone their call for violent acts against cyclists, I've been with plenty of cyclists on group rides who rode so discourteously and selfishly that it angered me ... and I was on a bike. But heaven help the cyclist who gets in my path when I have a bag of popcorn in the car and I drop a big, juicy kernel between the seats. All of this is a large part of the reason I just moved to the absolute middle of nowhere. I can do a 50 mile ride and be passed by maybe three cars. And there's no cell phone service! Bob C. "Zoot Katz" wrote in message ... Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0600, , "Pat" wrote: When a person talks on a phone, their mind is occupied because they are having to make decisions. Eating is just shoveling food into your mouth. And keeping it out of your lap. Eating and drinking while driving are definitely distractions to the job at hand. That job, boring as it is, is 'watching out for the other guy'. -- zk |
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Robert Chambers wrote:
Yes ... indeed. Driving is a mundane and boring task. When I started this thread, I picked on cell phones, but I could as easily have picked on eating, applying makeup ... shoot, I think it would be special if they'd a) not allow anyone under 20 or so to drive and b) especially not allow carloads of teenagers with a teenage driver. But really, I was just trying to point out that, if we want to obsess about something, we have lots more we can obsess about than what a couple of idiot DJs have to say. While I'd never condone their call for violent acts against cyclists, I've been with plenty of cyclists on group rides who rode so discourteously and selfishly that it angered me ... and I was on a bike. But heaven help the cyclist who gets in my path when I have a bag of popcorn in the car and I drop a big, juicy kernel between the seats. All of this is a large part of the reason I just moved to the absolute middle of nowhere. I can do a 50 mile ride and be passed by maybe three cars. And there's no cell phone service! Bob C. Watch out for the wet train tracks! - Jim S. |
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Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:42:30 -0500, , top
posting toady "Robert Chambers" wrote: Pay attention to where you're pointing that ****heap of yours and turn off the stupid radio too. -- zk |
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I recall seeing some stats on causes of "distracted driver" accidents
once (sorry, can't immediately find the source). As I recall, cell phones were way down on the list of causes. I think eating while driving was actually number one, at any rate, it was way up there. Other causes included fiddling with the radio and talking to others in the car. Agreed, that reckless people endanger others, no matter whether they are motoring, bicycling, or walking. Unfortunately, motorists have the potential to cause a lot more damage with their carlessness. |
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