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Old April 9th 21, 08:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
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I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric.. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.
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Old April 9th 21, 09:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


There are no SAE or Metric specific Torx bits. Only Torx bits:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
The same series of Torx drivers is used to drive
SAE, metric and other thread system fasteners,
reducing the number of bit sizes required.

There are also Torx Plus bits:
A Torx successor, Torx Plus, was introduced around
1990 when the original Torx patent was expiring.
The lobes are more square to allow for higher torque
and to minimize wear.

Difference between Torx bits and Star bits:
https://carlawn.com/star-bits-vs-torx-bits/

You really should do some Googlie searching before guessing. Maybe
ask the OSH salesman for help?

We don't know why we bother providing corrections to your postings.
You seem to enjoy playing the victim and posting erronious
"information". Maybe if we post similar garbage, you could spend your
afternoon fixing our mistakes?

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Old April 9th 21, 09:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
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On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.

There are no SAE or Metric specific Torx bits. Only Torx bits:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
The same series of Torx drivers is used to drive
SAE, metric and other thread system fasteners,
reducing the number of bit sizes required.

There are also Torx Plus bits:
A Torx successor, Torx Plus, was introduced around
1990 when the original Torx patent was expiring.
The lobes are more square to allow for higher torque
and to minimize wear.

Difference between Torx bits and Star bits:
https://carlawn.com/star-bits-vs-torx-bits/

You really should do some Googlie searching before guessing. Maybe
ask the OSH salesman for help?

We don't know why we bother providing corrections to your postings.
You seem to enjoy playing the victim and posting erronious
"information". Maybe if we post similar garbage, you could spend your
afternoon fixing our mistakes?


After careful observation, although they say exactly the same thing on the outsides of the package there is one of the Torx bits that doesn't not match the box. Instead of a 30, 20, 15. It is a 30, 25, 15. So for one time in your life you can say that you were right before you die.
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Old April 9th 21, 09:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 4/9/2021 1:28 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


There are no SAE or Metric specific Torx bits. Only Torx bits:


snip

Jeff, I was about to put up a craiglist ad for Inch-Sized Torx bits. You
just wrecked my sole chance of quick sale to the only possible customer
on the planet. Thanks a lot.
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Old April 9th 21, 09:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
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On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:53:59 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 4/9/2021 1:28 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


There are no SAE or Metric specific Torx bits. Only Torx bits:

snip

Jeff, I was about to put up a craiglist ad for Inch-Sized Torx bits. You
just wrecked my sole chance of quick sale to the only possible customer
on the planet. Thanks a lot.

Tell you what Scharf - what if I come down there and shove your face in and then kick your skull in so that you can spend the rest of your life drooling in front of everyone like you do on the Internet?
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Old April 9th 21, 11:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


"My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the
metric kit sized fit."??

Imagine that folks! Metric wrenches don't fit inch size fittings...
Tommy boy, you are positively amazing!
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Old April 9th 21, 11:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 13:56:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:53:59 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 4/9/2021 1:28 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.

There are no SAE or Metric specific Torx bits. Only Torx bits:

snip

Jeff, I was about to put up a craiglist ad for Inch-Sized Torx bits. You
just wrecked my sole chance of quick sale to the only possible customer
on the planet. Thanks a lot.

Tell you what Scharf - what if I come down there and shove your face in and then kick your skull in so that you can spend the rest of your life drooling in front of everyone like you do on the Internet?


Oooooh Tommy, such a terrifying statement! I'm sure that SMS is just
huddling in terror.

Or more likely laughing his head off.

Question here. Do you ever reread your posts to see just how
ridiculous you are?

(ridiculous - inspiring scornful pity, incongruous;inviting ridicule)
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Old April 9th 21, 11:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_4_]
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On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 3:26:46 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:
I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


"My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the
metric kit sized fit."??

Imagine that folks! Metric wrenches don't fit inch size fittings...
Tommy boy, you are positively amazing!


John, if you don't read English anymore why are you commenting?

By the way you ignorant fool. 3/32 is 4 mm, 13/64ths is 5 mm and 15/64ths is 6 mm - the most common metric sizes and which is in any complete English tool kit.

I suggest you grow a brain before you die. As unlikely as that sounds.

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Old April 10th 21, 12:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 3:26:46 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:
I bough two sets of tools from OSH Hardware and one was inches and the other metric. I bought both because they had inch or metric Allan head tools In the process of working on my bike I discovered that the TORX tools which I assumed to be standardized are in fact different from inch sizes to metric. My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the metric kit sized fit.


"My 3T headset uses the INCH size Torx screw heads and none of the
metric kit sized fit."??

Imagine that folks! Metric wrenches don't fit inch size fittings...
Tommy boy, you are positively amazing!


John, if you don't read English anymore why are you commenting?

By the way you ignorant fool. 3/32 is 4 mm, 13/64ths is 5 mm and 15/64ths is 6 mm - the most common metric sizes and which is in any complete English tool kit.

I suggest you grow a brain before you die. As unlikely as that sounds.


.... except that 4mm is actually 5/32" or 0.1574... 3/32" is actually
2.5mm.

I didn't bother to check any more as we all know about your brain
damage and how you get so many things wrong.
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John B.

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Old April 10th 21, 02:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jeff Liebermann
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 13:43:05 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

After careful observation, although they say exactly the same thing on
the outsides of the package there is one of the Torx bits that doesn't
not match the box. Instead of a 30, 20, 15. It is a 30, 25, 15. So for
one time in your life you can say that you were right before you die.


All those T-xx numbers are valid. I've bought assortments of Torx
driver bits in the past, where the vendor has a creative idea of which
bits to provide. The motivation is simple. If they leave out a
common Torx bit size, the customer will eventually return to the store
to buy the similar set that includes the missing bit. For example,
just about all the cast bits for Stihl chainsaws are T-27, which for a
time was not a common size:
https://www.amazon.com/Stens-705-194-Power-Length-Replaces/dp/B01M09AD7H

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