The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for "doping practices."

The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."



*******s

On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan

Hell And High Water a écrit profondement:

| The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
| "doping practices."
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|
| *******s

Right. Who'd ever want to ride for a squad that frowned on
enterprising riders

--
Davey Crockett
-
TRUTH is only ILLEGAL when CRIMINALS are in POWER

Hell And High Water wrote:

The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

So Cobo must be enzymatically clean.

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On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan

Maybe they finally did it right? Let the rider & team know about a positive
sample without first leaking it to the press?

Nah. That wouldn't happen. No way they'd bypass the doping lab at L'Equipe.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

On 7/18/08 6:41 AM, in article
,
" wrote:

On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan


Assbag -

It is called "Code of Ethics"!!

They signed on to this as a requisite for employment with the consequences
of violation to be TERMINATION

On Jul 18, 10:09 pm, ST wrote:
On 7/18/08 6:41 AM, in article
,

" wrote:
On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan

Assbag -

It is called "Code of Ethics"!!

They signed on to this as a requisite for employment with the consequences
of violation to be TERMINATION

A positive A sample is no more a violation of ethics than getting a
speeding ticket (which is a notice to appear to set a court date).

-ilan

On Jul 18, 2:04*pm, wrote:
On Jul 18, 10:09 pm, ST wrote:





On 7/18/08 6:41 AM, in article
,

" wrote:
On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan

Assbag -

It is called "Code of Ethics"!!

They signed on to this as a requisite for employment with the consequences
of violation to be TERMINATION

A positive A sample is no more a violation of ethics than getting a
speeding ticket (which is a notice to appear to set a court date).

Yeah, one wonders about the original contract. Any particular
contract could say near anything, I suppose, although there is bound
to be some similarities across them. A contract could be quite close
to at-will on the sponsor end when it may come to doping issues.

My opinion is that the general approach should be a suspension (from
team) on only an A-sample result, if there are indeed doping
restrictions. A B-sample confirmation would likely then lead to
termination. However, in particular cases there could be more known/
suspected than the A-sample result alone. Higher suspicion perhaps
would lead to sooner termination.

I have heard too that in some places in Europe there is a so-called
"'right' to work" (marxist). THat could go into your legal question.
(Of course, there is no such thing as a "right" to work -- that is a
distortion of language even if procedural legality names it that.
Such a thing is a privilege/power.)

On Jul 18, 11:27 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
On Jul 18, 2:04 pm, wrote:



On Jul 18, 10:09 pm, ST wrote:

On 7/18/08 6:41 AM, in article
,

" wrote:
On Jul 18, 3:25 pm, Hell And High Water
wrote:
The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for
"doping practices."

*******s

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan

Assbag -

It is called "Code of Ethics"!!

They signed on to this as a requisite for employment with the consequences
of violation to be TERMINATION

A positive A sample is no more a violation of ethics than getting a
speeding ticket (which is a notice to appear to set a court date).

Yeah, one wonders about the original contract. Any particular
contract could say near anything, I suppose, although there is bound
to be some similarities across them. A contract could be quite close
to at-will on the sponsor end when it may come to doping issues.

My opinion is that the general approach should be a suspension (from
team) on only an A-sample result, if there are indeed doping
restrictions. A B-sample confirmation would likely then lead to
termination. However, in particular cases there could be more known/
suspected than the A-sample result alone. Higher suspicion perhaps
would lead to sooner termination.

I have heard too that in some places in Europe there is a so-called
"'right' to work" (marxist). THat could go into your legal question.
(Of course, there is no such thing as a "right" to work -- that is a
distortion of language even if procedural legality names it that.
Such a thing is a privilege/power.)

As you say, more information is required than just a positive A
sample, or else just give the reason as "irreconcilable differences"
or some other out written in the contract. The Rassmussen award proves
this.

Europe has a much better record protecting employee's rights. In fact,
this was going to be the basis for Kascheshkin's lawyer in his defense
based on a violation of human rights, that is, that random dope tests
invaded the right to privacy. He lost the first round local judgment
and Kascheskin dropped him at that point which was pretty dumb,
because he had a good chance of winning in the European court of human
rights (the lawyer had won there before) and thereby changing all
doping controls forever, and secondly because he had a very good case
otherwise, e.g., the clueless UCI inspectors got the time zone in
Turkey wrong and actually tested him after the prescribed time limit
(10pm I believe). Just goes to show that Kascheshkin is incredibly
stupid other than in his doping.

-ilan

Since the B sample hasn't been tested yet, the police found no doping
products belonging to Ricco (French TV announced that he would not be
indicted for possession), and the team director has stated that they
had no knowledge of any doping by its riders, I wonder how they can
justify it legally.

-ilan


Assbag -

It is called "Code of Ethics"!!

They signed on to this as a requisite for employment with the consequences
of violation to be TERMINATION

So Piepoli must have admitted something, it's likely he's the one who
got everything organized for Ricco. I wonder what Simoni thinks of
that seeing as he was their leader last year.