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On Jul 23, 10:41 pm, Bret Wade wrote:
bluezfolk wrote:
On Jul 23, 1:22 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jul 22, 1:43 pm, bluezfolk wrote:

At least their not doping, and bringing discredit to the sport.
Dumbass -

Don't kid yourself.

They're just not tested because no one cares. Regardless, some of them
are doping. Doping is part of Western Culture.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

I may be a dumbass, but at least I don't make unfounded accusations.
Doping is not a part of western culture, its an unsportsmanlike part
of sports. I've read all the articles and interviews of the poor bike
racer who HAD to do it to be competitive, seems to me they just want
an unfair advantage, perhaps they need to change jobs.

Speaking of unfounded accusations, which bike racer in an interview,
said that they had to dope to be competitive?

I read it in 2 recent issues of the Rodale Bicycle magazine, 2
differant interviews. I don't remember the names because I don't
follow bicycle racing. Seems the feel "pressured" to dope to be
competetive. Of course they only said this after being caught.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:23:36 -0700, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo.
com wrote:


.......Kunich's message not quoted. AND he goes into my killfile.

PLONK!

On Jul 23, 4:52*pm, bluezfolk wrote:

Doping is not a part of western culture, its an unsportsmanlike part
of sports.



Dumbass -


You are wrong. Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, marijuana, prozac, ritalin, ibuprofen,
aspirin, antihistimines, zoloft, adderral, xanax, valium, viagra,
cialis, methamphetamine, ginsing, birth control hormones.

That is but a very incomplete list and if you don't know hundreds of
people who use those substances, you're living in a cave.

Doping is a part of Western Culture.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Jul 24, 6:00*am, bluezfolk wrote:
On Jul 23, 10:41 pm, Bret Wade wrote:

Speaking of unfounded accusations, which bike racer in an interview,
said that they had to dope to be competitive?

I read it in 2 recent issues *of the Rodale Bicycle magazine, 2
differant interviews. *I don't remember the names because I don't
follow bicycle racing. *Seems the feel "pressured" to dope to be
competetive. *Of course they only said this after being caught.

You expected them to say it before they were caught (or retired)?

In article
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

On Jul 23, 4:52*pm, bluezfolk wrote:

Doping is not a part of western culture, its an unsportsmanlike part
of sports.



Dumbass -


You are wrong. Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, marijuana, prozac, ritalin, ibuprofen,
aspirin, antihistimines, zoloft, adderral, xanax, valium, viagra,
cialis, methamphetamine, ginsing, birth control hormones.

That is but a very incomplete list and if you don't know hundreds of
people who use those substances, you're living in a cave.

Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Let's be fair. It is part of every culture.
Chewing betel nuts, khat leaves, and cocaine leaves.
Opium eating, hashish eating.

People self medicate around the world,
and from the beginning of the world.

Western culture has its own style:
laboratory purification, laboratory modification.
Extract morphine from opium, add two acetyl groups,
ride the white horse.

NewsFlash! Drug use on the rise!

--
Michael Press

On Jul 24, 1:04 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jul 23, 4:52 pm, bluezfolk wrote:

Doping is not a part of western culture, its an unsportsmanlike part
of sports.

Dumbass -

You are wrong. Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, marijuana, prozac, ritalin, ibuprofen,
aspirin, antihistimines, zoloft, adderral, xanax, valium, viagra,
cialis, methamphetamine, ginsing, birth control hormones.

That is but a very incomplete list and if you don't know hundreds of
people who use those substances, you're living in a cave.

Doping is a part of Western Culture.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

I was referring to doping as in performance enhancing drugs used by
athletes to improve their performance. You consider drinking coffee
and taking birth control hormones doping and you call me a dumbass,
perhaps it is you my friend who lives in a cave.

On Jul 24, 4:43*pm, bluezfolk wrote:


I was referring to doping as in performance enhancing drugs used by
athletes to improve their performance. *You consider drinking coffee
and taking birth control hormones doping




Dumbass -


If you think about it objectively, those are also doping methods.

BTW, caffeine in excessive quantities is banned by the UCI. And
estrogen? Very powerful hormone. Stopping the reproductive process is
no joke. Testosterone is no more powerful a hormone than estrogen. You
just don't think of it that way because estrogen doesn't performance
enhance for sport. IMO, regulating the process of creating life makes
it at least as as powerful.

As for calling you a dumbass: you're a ****ing thinskin newbie. I call
everyone a dumbass. No exceptions. I am one too, for wasting time in
these forums.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Jul 24, 4:14*pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,
*Kurgan Gringioni wrote:





On Jul 23, 4:52*pm, bluezfolk wrote:

Doping is not a part of western culture, its an unsportsmanlike part
of sports.

Dumbass -

You are wrong. Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, marijuana, prozac, ritalin, ibuprofen,
aspirin, antihistimines, zoloft, adderral, xanax, valium, viagra,
cialis, methamphetamine, ginsing, birth control hormones.

That is but a very incomplete list and if you don't know hundreds of
people who use those substances, you're living in a cave.

Doping is a part of Western Culture.

Let's be fair. It is part of every culture.



Dumbass -


No argument there.

I think, however, that Western culture has a much greater selection.
Probably it's just a function of post-industrial society and the
others will catch up/are catching up soon.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote:

As for calling you a dumbass: you're a ****ing thinskin newbie. I call
everyone a dumbass. No exceptions. I am one too, for wasting time in
these forums.

PLONK!

Guy Anderson, Sr. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote:

As for calling you a dumbass: you're a ****ing thinskin newbie. I call
everyone a dumbass. No exceptions. I am one too, for wasting time in
these forums.

PLONK!

Why do people have the need to make public their kill-filing of others?

I do not understand.

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