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Old November 13th 11, 01:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:13:54 -0000, Simon Mason
wrote:
On Nov 13, 11:41 am, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:

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No you are helping a criminal escape punishment.

By preventing the crime, not moving it. Twit. READ what I write.


The police will prevent the crime of speeding for good by nabbing
them enough times to get them off the road where they can do the
public no harm. Warning them is obstruction, pure and simple.


No, they will nab them enough times to make them buy a satnav with a
speed camera database - or at least that's what happened to me.


ah, a serial speeder, not even bright enough to learn from punishment.


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Old November 13th 11, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Nov 13, 12:31*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:13:54 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 13, 11:41 am, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:


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No you are helping a criminal escape punishment.


By preventing the crime, not moving it. *Twit. *READ what I write.


The police will prevent the crime of speeding for good by nabbing them
enough times to get them off the road where they can do the public no
harm. Warning them is obstruction, pure and simple.


No, they will nab them enough times to make them buy a satnav with a speed camera database - or at least that's what happened to me.


If you drive in France with it turned on, you will get fined for that.

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Old November 13th 11, 02:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:35:01 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:13:54 -0000, Simon Mason
wrote:
On Nov 13, 11:41 am, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:



No you are helping a criminal escape punishment.

By preventing the crime, not moving it. Twit. READ what I write.


The police will prevent the crime of speeding for good by nabbing
them enough times to get them off the road where they can do the
public no harm. Warning them is obstruction, pure and simple.


No, they will nab them enough times to make them buy a satnav with a
speed camera database - or at least that's what happened to me.


ah, a serial speeder, not even bright enough to learn from punishment.


I did, I learnt how to not get caught.

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Old November 13th 11, 02:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:43:02 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Nov 13, 12:31 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:13:54 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 13, 11:41 am, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:


- Show quoted text -


No you are helping a criminal escape punishment.


By preventing the crime, not moving it. Twit. READ what I write.


The police will prevent the crime of speeding for good by nabbing them
enough times to get them off the road where they can do the public no
harm. Warning them is obstruction, pure and simple.


No, they will nab them enough times to make them buy a satnav with a speed camera database - or at least that's what happened to me.


If you drive in France with it turned on, you will get fined for that.


I have done, and they stole it. But that was a radar detector only. A satnav is for navigation you see....

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Old November 13th 11, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 12/11/2011 15:48, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...eration-passer




This is actually quite comical.

“Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in a
crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way street last
Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street, a woman was warning
other bike riders of the operation.”

“police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction had they
known what she was doing.”(!)

So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way street they
are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to arrest her. This sounds
totally bizarre. It means stopping someone from committing an offence, is an
offence, because the police cannot issue a ticket.

Talk about the police having their bubble burst.

Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers coming the
other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to others. What a bunch
of ******s the police have become.


It will be a sad day for justice when warning others not to break the law
becomes something for which the "perpetrator" will be hunted down and
persec... er... prosecuted.

And yes, I am aware that there are already extant cases of it.
  #26  
Old November 13th 11, 04:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 12/11/2011 18:10, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:48:44 +0000
Simon wrote:

On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...eration-passer



This is actually quite comical.

“Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in a
crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way street
last Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street, a woman
was warning other bike riders of the operation.”

“police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction
had they known what she was doing.”(!)

So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way street
they are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to arrest her.
This sounds totally bizarre. It means stopping someone from
committing an offence, is an offence, because the police cannot issue
a ticket.

Talk about the police having their bubble burst.

Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers
coming the other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to
others. What a bunch of ******s the police have become.

ISTR it's an offence to warn other road users of a speedtrap/checkpoint
ahead, and reasonably so IMNSHO - it's obstruction of justice by
attempting to prevent the apprehension of a person while committing a
criminal act.


But how about *before* they commit an offence?

You might not know that local BBC radio in Essex tells listeners where the
Essex "Safety" Camera vans are on that day (only by approximate location, but
those who know the area know exactly where the vans will be).
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Old November 13th 11, 04:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 13/11/2011 09:54, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:34:46 -0000, Mr. Benn wrote:

"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message
...

On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...eration-passer




This is actually quite comical.

“Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in a
crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way street last
Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street, a woman was
warning other bike riders of the operation.”

“police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction had
they known what she was doing.”(!)

So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way street
they are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to arrest her. This
sounds totally bizarre. It means stopping someone from committing an
offence, is an offence, because the police cannot issue a ticket.

Talk about the police having their bubble burst.

Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers coming
the other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to others.
What a bunch of ******s the police have become.
=====================================

Why, because they are enforcing the law?


One of the nonsensical laws.

Say I see someone about to commit a murder, and stop them from doing so,
would the police arrest me?


If it's wrong to stop someone from speeding (and being caught for it), then
the answer is clearly "Yes".

You will have obstructed the police.
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Old November 13th 11, 04:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 13/11/2011 09:59, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 13, 9:54 am, "Lieutenant wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:34:46 -0000, Mr. wrote:
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message
...


On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...rned-police-op...


This is actually quite comical.


“Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in a
crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way street last
Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street, a woman was
warning other bike riders of the operation.”


“police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction had
they known what she was doing.”(!)


So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way street
they are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to arrest her. This
sounds totally bizarre. It means stopping someone from committing an
offence, is an offence, because the police cannot issue a ticket.


Talk about the police having their bubble burst.


Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers coming
the other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to others.
What a bunch of ******s the police have become.
=====================================


Why, because they are enforcing the law?


One of the nonsensical laws.

Say I see someone about to commit a murder, and stop them from doing so, would the police arrest me?


That's not the same.


No, of course it's not

FX: rolls eyes

Warning speeding drivers about speed traps stops them getting caught
and possibly banned if they accrue enough points, at which point they
will cease to be a danger to the public at large.


Nutter.

Anti-social nutter.
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Old November 13th 11, 04:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 13/11/2011 10:14, Mrcheerful wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:34:46 -0000, Mr. Benn
wrote:
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message
...

On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...eration-passer



This is actually quite comical.

"Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in a
crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way street
last Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street, a woman
was warning other bike riders of the operation."

"police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction
had they known what she was doing."(!)

So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way street
they are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to arrest her.
This sounds totally bizarre. It means stopping someone from
committing an offence, is an offence, because the police cannot
issue a ticket. Talk about the police having their bubble burst.

Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers
coming the other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to
others. What a bunch of ******s the police have become.
=====================================

Why, because they are enforcing the law?


One of the nonsensical laws.

Say I see someone about to commit a murder, and stop them from doing
so, would the police arrest me?


Preventing a crime is not the same as assisting someone to avoid detection
of their crime.


What "crime" has been "committed"?
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Old November 13th 11, 04:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 13/11/2011 10:25, Mrcheerful wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:14:29 -0000,
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:34:46 -0000, Mr. Benn
wrote:
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message
...

On 12/11/2011 15:13, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://road.cc/content/news/25728-ca...eration-passer



This is actually quite comical.

"Police in Cambridge issued ten fixed penalty notices last week in
a crackdown against cyclists riding the wrong way up a one-way
street last Thursday, but were unaware that further up the street,
a woman was warning other bike riders of the operation."

"police say that they would have arrested the woman for obstruction
had they known what she was doing."(!)

So, someone is telling cyclists that if they ride up a one-way
street they are liable to get a ticket, and the police want to
arrest her. This sounds totally bizarre. It means stopping someone
from committing an offence, is an offence, because the police
cannot issue a ticket. Talk about the police having their bubble
burst. Drivers do this all the time when there is a speed trap, drivers
coming the other way flash their lights ferociously as a warning to
others. What a bunch of ******s the police have become.
=====================================

Why, because they are enforcing the law?

One of the nonsensical laws.

Say I see someone about to commit a murder, and stop them from doing
so, would the police arrest me?

Preventing a crime is not the same as assisting someone to avoid
detection of their crime.


Flashing your lights at someone who is speeding (which everybody does
by the way), stops them speeding. You're preventing the "crime".


You are preventing them being apprehended for their crime.


You can't prevent them from being apprehended for a crime that didn't take place.
 




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