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Magistrate insanity
In uk.rec.motorcycles CT wrote:
frag wrote: Also cars very rarely jump red lights round here. Blimey! I see several cars jump red lights several times a day. It depends where you drive. In Bristol and parts of London lights have a different meaning :- Green = go Yellow = hurry up Red = just 3 more cars and/or turn right. After that the cars stop but the cyclists just keep riding with their eyes closed. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley) |
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Magistrate insanity
On 31 Jan, 23:24, Wicked Uncle Nigel
wrote: Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Wicked Uncle Nigel typed Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, David Hansen typed On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:08:05 -0000 someone who may be "Beav" wrote this:- I've *never* been overtaken at a red light by a car so desperate to get through that he's overtaken and jumped the lights. Mind you, I've only been driving/riding for 44 years so it'll probably happen tomorrow. I have seen motorists overtaking other motorists and cyclists in order to go past red traffic lights. I have seen this more than once. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. G Two minds with but a single thought. Between them. You are of one mind. Half a mind apiece -- Malc |
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On 1 Feb, 11:00, wrote:
It depends where you drive. In Bristol and parts of London lights have a different meaning :- Green = go Yellow = hurry up Red = just 3 more cars and/or turn right. After that the cars stop but the cyclists just keep riding with their eyes closed. Yup, seems about right. A bit like the indicators on cars in Coventry when I lived there a few years back. The indicator means "Look I just turned left/right!" -- Malc |
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On 1 Feb 2010 10:51:06 GMT someone who may be "CT"
wrote this:- Also cars very rarely jump red lights round here. Blimey! I see several cars jump red lights several times a day. One in ten motorists do so, according to the RAC some years ago http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/3005652.stm. IIRC a light was only considered to be red for motorists after it had been red for a few seconds (3 or 5 seconds ring a bell). Had they actually recorded the true figures they would be higher. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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Magistrate insanity
JMS wrote:
I think I will write to the Ministry of Justice and suggest that all magistrates should be reminded... I'm sure they'll be grateful for your wisdom. BugBear |
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CT wrote:
frag wrote: Also cars very rarely jump red lights round here. Blimey! I see several cars jump red lights several times a day. The lights change quite quickly, people set off when the light changes to green quite quickly. Anyone jumping a red light has an extremely high chance of having a serious accident. When I'm on the motorbike, and waiting on a red, I have trained myself to wait until green, *then* double check no-one's jumping the red before proceeding. When I first started commuting through NW London and around the home counties, I had several near misses as I'd gone quickly on green, only to have some **** jump the red. And it's definitely not an un-common occurrence. I know one set of lights on a dual (A64) where people go through late on the red (at speed), other than that I very rarely see cars shooting the red. In fact the only woeful driving I see with regularity is 'tards going too slowly, causing the traffic to bunch and get reckless in passing. -- Hog |
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In article , David Hansen
writes IIRC a light was only considered to be red for motorists after it had been red for a few seconds (3 or 5 seconds ring a bell). Had they actually recorded the true figures they would be higher. No, I am afraid that is complete and utter ****ing bollox. A red light is a red light from the moment it turns red, the very instant, not some arbitrary value placed on it by you or some other idiot. -- steve auvache |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:08:05 -0000 someone who may be "Beav" wrote this:- I've *never* been overtaken at a red light by a car so desperate to get through that he's overtaken and jumped the lights. Mind you, I've only been driving/riding for 44 years so it'll probably happen tomorrow. I have seen motorists overtaking other motorists and cyclists in order to go past red traffic lights. I have seen this more than once. Yeah, but you're in porridgewogland aintcha? -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |
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"ogden" wrote in message ... Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote: Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Wicked Uncle Nigel typed Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, David Hansen typed I have seen motorists overtaking other motorists and cyclists in order to go past red traffic lights. I have seen this more than once. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. G Two minds with but a single thought. Between them. And even then, not an original one. But one had better punctuation. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |
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In article , Phil W Lee
writes frag considered Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:24:09 -0000 the perfect time to write: Phil W Lee took a blunt brush and painted... frag considered Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:59:11 -0000 the perfect time to write: took a blunt brush and painted... When many more motorists do exactly the same they are not always hauled up. They have to be observed and caught first. My guess is the magistrate is aware that cyclists are vulnerable road users who do those things to avoid being killed by drivers. Please explain how failing to cycle through a red light would result in death. Any time the motor vehicle behind you decides to run the red. This is true of the first few motor vehicles after the red light at many junctions and crossings - you have to wait for a law abiding one to block the others, and even they get rammed from behind with alarming frequency. *boggle* Where on earth do you live? UK Where I live if my light has turned to red I know the lights in the intersecting lane have turned to green. No, they wait for a while before turning the other lights green. They always did provide a small buffer No they didn't. The all red phase is a relatively new introduction into traffic signal phasing and has come about as a result of the high cost to the taxpayer of too many accidents from hopefuls trying their luck during either the starting or leaving amber phases. Strangely it works out cheaper on the public purse to keep you all at a standstill for an extra 2 seconds at every change rather than to sweep up the bodies once a month. (that's what the amber and red/amber phases were for) No, they are an indicator that you should stop immediately. Or, if stopped, should continue to do so. but lately they've had so many RLJs that they have had to give an even longer gap, with all lights standing at red for up to 3 seconds. Nearly right. The default for an all red phase is 2 seconds but is still a variable decided upon by local conditions. I have seen it as long as 5 on a very wide junction with "a history" and you are unlikely these days to see it less than 1 second. This has the detrimental effect of teaching motorists that they can get away with jumping at least the first few seconds of red. Yes and no, it is not about training but utter ****ing selfishness and a total disregard for the consequences. FFS this thread is populated by cyclists, you guys should understand this perfectly. Ah, never mind - it must be some other United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that's had to extend the period during which all lights are red because of the number of people who keep going after the lights have changed. This is true. -- steve auvache |
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