White van not a viable means of transport.

The perfect solution for the van bound tardy handyman.

http://road.cc/content/news/25504-pe...c-traffic-jams

--
Simon Mason

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

On 13 Oct, 10:47, "Simon Mason" wrote:
The perfect solution for the van bound tardy handyman.

http://road.cc/content/news/25504-pe...es-his-bike-be...

--
Simon Mason

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Big respect to the man. But doesn't his use of a cycle make him
"cycling scum"? I get so confused. And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

On Oct 13, 12:25*pm, al Mossah wrote:
On 13 Oct, 10:47, "Simon Mason" wrote:

The perfect solution for the van bound tardy handyman.

http://road.cc/content/news/25504-pe...es-his-bike-be...

--
Simon Mason

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Big respect to the man. *But doesn't his use of a cycle make him
"cycling scum"? *I get so confused. *And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

I know, it's so difficult, isn't it. A couple of pointers which may
help you reach a conclusion:
* The plural of "anecdote" is not "data", i.e. making wild
extrapolations/generalisations from indivudual news reports is
nonsense
* This is usenet, full of nutters, single issue zealots, and people
who will argue a point just for the sake of it, and is not in any way
representative of reality
Does that help?

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:47:40 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

The perfect solution for the van bound tardy handyman.

http://road.cc/content/news/25504-pe...c-traffic-jams



What ****.

I wonder how he finds turning corners?

Is it legal to have protrusions at the front and rear of a vehicle?


--
Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so
cannot be of any consequence.
(Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever)

al Mossah wrote:
And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/s...ts.html#middle

BugBear

On 13 Oct, 12:25, al Mossah wrote:
On 13 Oct, 10:47, "Simon Mason" wrote:

The perfect solution for the van bound tardy handyman.

http://road.cc/content/news/25504-pe...es-his-bike-be...



Big respect to the man. *But doesn't his use of a cycle make him
"cycling scum"? *I get so confused. *

I don't know - being a handyman *might* elevate him from scum to a
bloke going around doing odd jobs, running his own business, paying
his taxes and getting to jobs on time - i.e. someone to be admired.

And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

The Handyman says safe - I believe him.

--
Simon Mason

Simon Mason wrote:

I don't know - being a handyman *might* elevate him from scum to a
bloke going around doing odd jobs, running his own business, paying
his taxes and getting to jobs on time - i.e. someone to be admired.

Nah, "handyman" is a euphemism for an unqualified tradesman who rips off old
ladies and dodges tax.

And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

The Handyman says safe - I believe him.

The Handyman says safe? Whatever the Handyman says I would be sceptical
about.

On Oct 13, 1:37*pm, bugbear wrote:
al Mossah wrote:
* And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/s...ts.html#middle

It's quite scary how many of those fallacious argument categories our
Doug (and others) use here.

On 13 Oct, 15:22, "mileburner" wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

I don't know - being a handyman *might* elevate him from scum to a
bloke going around doing odd jobs, running his own business, paying
his taxes and getting to jobs on time - i.e. someone to be admired.

Nah, "handyman" is a euphemism for an unqualified tradesman who rips off old
ladies and dodges tax.

And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

The Handyman says safe - I believe him.

The Handyman says safe? Whatever the Handyman says I would be sceptical
about.

Well, thanks all for trying to help, but I'm still confused. I can't
even work out if I'm cycling scum; I do ride a bike to work, but I
also have a car, so pay vehicle excise duty (is that the same thing as
road tax? I think I heard a handyman somewhere say that it wasn't ...
or was, I don't know). The bloke in the article with the ladders and
bike, he's "going about his business", so everyone should get out of
his way, shouldn't they? I'm sure that I read somewhere that people
holding up traffic should get out of the way of handymen going about
their business. So does this mean that any stationary car drivers are
"scum" because they are holding up this handyman? But actually, his
means of transport (apparently not viable) enables him to bypass the
traffic jams, so he's not being held up, so maybe the car drivers
aren't scum. This is getting more complicated.



And I quite respect handymen - well, the ones who do work for my
family.

On 13 Oct, 17:38, al Mossah wrote:
On 13 Oct, 15:22, "mileburner" wrote:



Simon Mason wrote:

I don't know - being a handyman *might* elevate him from scum to a
bloke going around doing odd jobs, running his own business, paying
his taxes and getting to jobs on time - i.e. someone to be admired.

Nah, "handyman" is a euphemism for an unqualified tradesman who rips off old
ladies and dodges tax.

And will someone clear up once
and for all, is cycling on UK roads safe or dangerous?

The Handyman says safe - I believe him.

The Handyman says safe? Whatever the Handyman says I would be sceptical
about.

Well, thanks all for trying to help, but I'm still confused. *I can't
even work out if I'm cycling scum; I do ride a bike to work, but I
also have a car, so pay vehicle excise duty (is that the same thing as
road tax? *I think I heard a handyman somewhere say that it wasn't ...
or was, I don't know). *The bloke in the article with the ladders and
bike, he's "going about his business", so everyone should get out of
his way, shouldn't they? *I'm sure that I read somewhere that people
holding up traffic should get out of the way of handymen going about
their business. *So does this mean that any stationary car drivers are
"scum" because they are holding up this handyman? *But actually, his
means of transport (apparently not viable) enables him to bypass the
traffic jams, so he's not being held up, so maybe the car drivers
aren't scum. *This is getting more complicated

Only to the hard of thinking