Another Addition to My "Required Reading for the Entire Planet": _Significant Others -- The Ape-Human Continuum and the Quest for Human Nature_

Stanford, Craig, Significant Others -- The Ape-Human Continuum and the Quest for
Human Nature. New York, N.Y.: Basic Books, 2001.
"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes. Significant
Others is a field guide to the current state of our understanding of both human
and ape nature and to the debates now raging in the fields of primate behavior
and human evolution." p.xviii. "Contrary to our popular belief, people who rely
on forest resources for a living do not necessarily try to conserve it. … A
second myth … is that economic improvements necessarily lead people to protect
their forests and wildlife." pp.195-6.
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes.

Takes one to know one.

to quote a bumper sticker "If you object to logging, try wiping your ass
with plastic toilet paper!! "

Go hug a tree, and leave the rest of us alone.

Micheal
(someone who loves the outdoors but lives in the real world)

"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
...

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"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes.

Takes one to know one.

We don't take your confession too seriously. Even granted that you are an
ape or have the intelligence of one, it is hard to determine who is on the
other end of a post.


to quote a bumper sticker "If you object to logging, try wiping your ass
with plastic toilet paper!! "

Paper does not come from logging of timberlands. It comes from treefarms
mostly. Areas dedicated to growing trees as a crop, no different than any
other farmland. Continuous supply, rather than opportunistic exploitation is
the rule. But then, you are really ignorant of the facts aren't you?


Go hug a tree, and leave the rest of us alone.

The majority of sane people value the environments so the 'rest of us' you
refer to must mean those in mental institutions like yourself?


Micheal
(someone who loves the outdoors but lives in the real world)

Is that what they call the rubber room these days? My. My. Perhaps they will
let you into the wider outdoors ( presumably the recreation room ) soon and
you can experience it again.

"Ian St. John" wrote in message
...

"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
...

.
"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes.

Takes one to know one.

We don't take your confession too seriously. Even granted that you are an
ape or have the intelligence of one, it is hard to determine who is on the
other end of a post.

I meant him, not me



to quote a bumper sticker "If you object to logging, try wiping your ass
with plastic toilet paper!! "

Paper does not come from logging of timberlands. It comes from treefarms
mostly. Areas dedicated to growing trees as a crop, no different than any
other farmland. Continuous supply, rather than opportunistic exploitation
is
the rule. But then, you are really ignorant of the facts aren't you?


Funny we have no such "farms" in Ontario Canada. We do have BUSH, aka dence
forest.

Go hug a tree, and leave the rest of us alone.

The majority of sane people value the environments so the 'rest of us' you
refer to must mean those in mental institutions like yourself?


Micheal
(someone who loves the outdoors but lives in the real world)

Is that what they call the rubber room these days? My. My. Perhaps they
will
let you into the wider outdoors ( presumably the recreation room ) soon
and
you can experience it again.



Gotta love them bouncy walls, they keep my head intact



On second thought, go pet a bear. With a hand covered in honey -- spring is
the perfect time to pet one.

"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
...

"Ian St. John" wrote in message
...

"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message
...

.
"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes.

Takes one to know one.

We don't take your confession too seriously. Even granted that you are
an
ape or have the intelligence of one, it is hard to determine who is on
the
other end of a post.

I meant him, not me

You kinda missed the part where I pointed out that you can only testify
about yourself...




to quote a bumper sticker "If you object to logging, try wiping your
ass
with plastic toilet paper!! "

Paper does not come from logging of timberlands. It comes from treefarms
mostly. Areas dedicated to growing trees as a crop, no different than
any
other farmland. Continuous supply, rather than opportunistic
exploitation
is
the rule. But then, you are really ignorant of the facts aren't you?


Funny we have no such "farms" in Ontario Canada. We do have BUSH, aka
dence
forest.

"Dence", must be some combination of dense and dunce? That would be
appropriate since paper mills don't use bush. It is a mix of pine, spruce,
poplar, etc. trees.



Go hug a tree, and leave the rest of us alone.

The majority of sane people value the environments so the 'rest of us'
you
refer to must mean those in mental institutions like yourself?


Micheal
(someone who loves the outdoors but lives in the real world)

Is that what they call the rubber room these days? My. My. Perhaps they
will
let you into the wider outdoors ( presumably the recreation room ) soon
and
you can experience it again.



Gotta love them bouncy walls, they keep my head intact



On second thought, go pet a bear. With a hand covered in honey -- spring
is
the perfect time to pet one.

Bears prefer three day old fish guts. Try that..

Mike Vandeman wrote in message . ..
Stanford, Craig, Significant Others -- The Ape-Human Continuum and the Quest for
Human Nature. New York, N.Y.: Basic Books, 2001.
"To understand human nature, you must understand the apes.


Apes are gay.

Ian Sinjun says:

We do have BUSH, aka
dence
forest.

"Dence", must be some combination of dense and dunce? That would be
appropriate since paper mills don't use bush.

It would be appropriate for the American Bush, too

;-P

Steve

R White says:

Apes are gay.

Takes one to know one...

Sorry - that's bee ndone before in this thread. Still true, though ;-P

Steve

ospam (Stephen Baker) wrote in message ...
R White says:

Apes are gay.

Takes one to know one...

Sorry - that's bee ndone before in this thread. Still true, though ;-P

I don't know any apes. My MIL is close though.