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Old June 5th 17, 10:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default "Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 7:15:20 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 17:27, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 16:04, wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote:


[ ... ]
You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery.
All of course using tax free fuel.
Lawn mowers and garden equipment
Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles
Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane
Recreational boats and personal watercraft
Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural
equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included
such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and
pumps that use diesel engines.
Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft
Locomotive
Aircraft engine
In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary
engines that are diesel powered.


Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like
petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation
than fuel intended for use on the roads.

and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on
the road?


You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot.
The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists


At last, you agree that there is a specific extra tax paid by motorists
in order that they may legally use the road. You will find that this
tax is commonly called 'road tax' Well done.


At least you agree motorists are sponging freeloaders and 'Road Tax' is just a made up term for VED.
Well done.

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Old June 5th 17, 11:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default "Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling

On 05/06/2017 19:15, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 17:27, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 16:04, wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote:


[ ... ]
You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery.
All of course using tax free fuel.
Lawn mowers and garden equipment
Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles
Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane
Recreational boats and personal watercraft
Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural
equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included
such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and
pumps that use diesel engines.
Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft
Locomotive
Aircraft engine
In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary
engines that are diesel powered.


Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed
like petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of
taxation than fuel intended for use on the roads.

and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on
the road?


You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot.
The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists


At last, you agree that there is a specific extra tax paid by motorists
in order that they may legally use the road. You will find that this
tax is commonly called 'road tax' Well done.


That *was* for Freda, though.

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Old June 5th 17, 11:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default "Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling

On 05/06/2017 18:29, wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 5:27:37 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 16:04,
wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote:


[ ... ]
You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery.
All of course using tax free fuel.
Lawn mowers and garden equipment
Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles
Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane
Recreational boats and personal watercraft
Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural
equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included
such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and
pumps that use diesel engines.
Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft
Locomotive
Aircraft engine
In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary
engines that are diesel powered.


Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like
petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation
than fuel intended for use on the roads.

and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on the road?


You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot.
The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists does not even cover the cost of motorway maintenance.


Maybe you think LGV drivers can ram cars off the road because LGV's use more fuel.


You are clearly demented.


Childish

You have to be, since you "think" that airily dismissing the
£300,000,000,000 (approx.) collected in fuel taxes means that it is not
taxe paid by road users in respect of road use.


Now it's 3 Hundred Billion.


Yes, that was my transcription error.

Mea Cclpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Road Tax


Does not exist


....even though it raises £6,000,000,000 a year (at current rates).

That is a wonderful state of non-existence, isn't it?

All the VAT on purchase prices, spare parts, repairs, servicing and
accessories, as well as insurance premium tax, is


Paid equally by cyclists.


The VAT on a cheap new car costing £12,000 would be 1/6th (£2,000).

Is that equal to the VAT on a new Halfords bicycle?
  #254  
Old June 6th 17, 01:37 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default "Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:59:59 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 18:29, wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 5:27:37 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 16:04,
wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote:

[ ... ]
You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery.
All of course using tax free fuel.
Lawn mowers and garden equipment
Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles
Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane
Recreational boats and personal watercraft
Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural
equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included
such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and
pumps that use diesel engines.
Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft
Locomotive
Aircraft engine
In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary
engines that are diesel powered.

Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like
petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation
than fuel intended for use on the roads.

and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on the road?

You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot.
The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists does not even cover the cost of motorway maintenance.

Maybe you think LGV drivers can ram cars off the road because LGV's use more fuel.

You are clearly demented.


Childish

You have to be, since you "think" that airily dismissing the
£300,000,000,000 (approx.) collected in fuel taxes means that it is not
taxe paid by road users in respect of road use.


Now it's 3 Hundred Billion.


Yes, that was my transcription error.

Mea Cclpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.


Apology accepted.


Road Tax


Does not exist


...even though it raises £6,000,000,000 a year (at current rates).

That is a wonderful state of non-existence, isn't it?


How can a non existent tax raise any money?
VED raises £6,000,000,000 a year of which £10,000,000,000 is spent on motorways.



All the VAT on purchase prices, spare parts, repairs, servicing and
accessories, as well as insurance premium tax, is


Paid equally by cyclists.


The VAT on a cheap new car costing £12,000 would be 1/6th (£2,000).

Is that equal to the VAT on a new Halfords bicycle?


So you agree VAT charged on vehicles is not unique to motor vehicles and is not a motoring tax.



 




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