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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 9/26/2017 9:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/26/2017 7:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote: On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. Some think they're good for the soil: http://homeguides.sfgate.com/banana-...den-31257.html Maybe _your_ soil. People who manage public lands are more excited about arranging chronic very large fires and shooting the owls that outbreed their preferred owls: http://www.npr.org/2014/01/15/262735...pecies-is-shot That's hardly a unique situation. People who want to preserve bluebird populations do all they can to eliminate or discourage house sparrows. The two species are incompatible, and house sparrows are non-natives introduced through human mistakes. There are similar examples regarding mollusks, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals, not to mention the plant world. We've screwed things up fairly thoroughly in many places. I suppose some would say none of it matters, that we should be happy with a continent-wide monoculture, but I disagree. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 2017-09-26 19:07, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg wrote: Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? I use diluted orange juice. Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle. It is a good source of potassium but difficult to store. Rots easy. http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/much...uice-6666.html The powder seems to have no potassium left, no idea what happens to it in the process: https://www.amazon.com/Augason-Farms.../dp/B00LBGNW9I -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. Do you know that I have an orange tree and a lemon tree in my backyard so I have to clean up rotten orange and lemon peels all the time and sweep them under the tree to fertilize the tree? That bananas have to be thrown away all the time because they rot in the supermarket? There is NO fruit that will not rot since THAT is the way they release their seeds. What exactly is this "It will not"? So not only do we have economists here but farmers as well. Growing tomatoes in your back yard every year indeed! |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg wrote: Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? I use diluted orange juice. Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull. It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn while riding. When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes. I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade. And the neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the glass door and having 8" on him. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg wrote: Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? I use diluted orange juice. Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull. It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn while riding. When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes. I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade. 100F+ and no shade is normal here in summer. Scientists say that beer flushed out glucose and supposedly makes things worse but I can't confirm that. After a nice pint of Double-IPA, Belgian Tripel or Stout I feel like having more climb energy than before. Though that burns off pretty quickly. ... And the neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the glass door and having 8" on him. That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike inside. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. Remember Jobst on presta stem locknuts and caps: "The proper place for these is by the side of the road." |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg wrote: Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? I use diluted orange juice. Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull. It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn while riding. When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes. I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade. 100F+ and no shade is normal here in summer. Scientists say that beer flushed out glucose and supposedly makes things worse but I can't confirm that. After a nice pint of Double-IPA, Belgian Tripel or Stout I feel like having more climb energy than before. Though that burns off pretty quickly. ... And the neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the glass door and having 8" on him. That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike inside. When I return from a hard ride and have a Belgian Ale I recover quite rapidly. In the bay area you get what you get. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote: On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok to litter. How about when you ride the road? Would you have us believe that you have never witnessed your banana peel land on someone's leaf-pile, or at the foot of a garbage can brought out to the street, or heard it wad up against the rear window of a parked pickup truck? |
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