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Old March 14th 17, 03:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.

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Old March 14th 17, 05:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 7:51:48 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.

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That guy is just such a doof it's impossible to take him seriously even when what he's saying is not incorrect.
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Old March 14th 17, 09:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-03-14, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 7:51:48 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:

https://janheine.wordpress.com


That guy is just such a doof it's impossible to take him seriously
even when what he's saying is not incorrect.


Try. It's good for you.

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Old March 15th 17, 05:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:52:52 -0700 (PDT), Doug Landau
wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 7:51:48 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.


That guy is just such a doof it's impossible to take him seriously
even when what he's saying is not incorrect.


Jan's first language is German, which influences how he writes. He's
prone to sounding dogmatic even when he's accommodating other
viewpoints. He seems genuinely interested in being correct in his
information, although he has tended to iterate his way there. Like
Grant Petersen and Jobst, he seems to have a somewhat outsized influence
given his niche market share. Like those two, his passion for and
belief in what he's doing seem to make a difference. But he's nowhere
near as "encycleopedic" as Jobst or Sheldon Brown, and he's a lot more
specifically focused than Grant.

His magazine is beautifully produced and his tires have been very
favorably viewed by all the people I know who have used them. I can't
bring myself to spend $70 on a bike tire. I did use his braze-ons and
straddle wire hangers for Mafac centerpulls when I had a custom bike
built; very well made products. His Rene Herse cranks look beautiful,
too. His history of Rene Herse is quite the tome.

Apparently he's also got a doctorate in geology. And more to the point,
perhaps, is that he has been able to turn his passion into making a
living. Many of us never do that. On the flip side I do find his
writing style often irritating and I could go a long while without
reading the word "optimized" as it relates to bike designs. He does
finally seem to be moving a bit past 1950s French constructeur bikes as
the ultimate pinnacle of bicycle design. That's good.
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Old March 15th 17, 06:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

r
... He seems genuinely interested in being correct in his
information, although he has tended to iterate his way there.


LOL Thank you I did in fact laugh out loud at this


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Old March 15th 17, 01:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:51:48 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.

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- Frank Krygowski


Almost all of it was just simple common sense. Nothing contentious. But this sentence from the article was a bit odd:

"For each of these rim/hub combinations, we now offer spoke packages with the highest-quality, double-butted, superlight Sapim Laser spokes (2.0 – 1.5 – 2.0 mm) and aluminum nipples."

I understand his explanation of detensioning the spokes on every revolution and the thin spokes stretch more to prevent some of the detensioning. But going with $1 a piece Laser spokes of 14/17 gauge instead of the cheaper 50 cents a piece and readily available 15/14 double butted spokes from DT or Sapim. Aluminum nipples? I thought brass was the standard for reliability. Never rounds off or breaks ever.
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Old March 15th 17, 01:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On 3/14/2017 7:01 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:51:48 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Almost all of it was just simple common sense. Nothing contentious. But this sentence from the article was a bit odd:

"For each of these rim/hub combinations, we now offer spoke packages with the highest-quality, double-butted, superlight Sapim Laser spokes (2.0 – 1.5 – 2.0 mm) and aluminum nipples."

I understand his explanation of detensioning the spokes on every revolution and the thin spokes stretch more to prevent some of the detensioning. But going with $1 a piece Laser spokes of 14/17 gauge instead of the cheaper 50 cents a piece and readily available 15/14 double butted spokes from DT or Sapim. Aluminum nipples? I thought brass was the standard for reliability. Never rounds off or breaks ever.


+1
we build with aluminum nipples only after our admonition and
then with reluctance.


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Old March 15th 17, 04:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
James[_8_]
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On 15/03/17 11:01, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:51:48 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.

-- - Frank Krygowski


Almost all of it was just simple common sense. Nothing contentious.
But this sentence from the article was a bit odd:

"For each of these rim/hub combinations, we now offer spoke packages
with the highest-quality, double-butted, superlight Sapim Laser
spokes (2.0 – 1.5 – 2.0 mm) and aluminum nipples."

I understand his explanation of detensioning the spokes on every
revolution and the thin spokes stretch more to prevent some of the
detensioning. But going with $1 a piece Laser spokes of 14/17 gauge
instead of the cheaper 50 cents a piece and readily available 15/14
double butted spokes from DT or Sapim. Aluminum nipples? I thought
brass was the standard for reliability. Never rounds off or breaks
ever.


I was wondering about the Al nipples too.

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JS
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Old March 15th 17, 01:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:51:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.


He seems to ignore the upper spokes. If the bottom spokes become
unloaded ( looser) then, logically, the top spokes must become more
highly loaded (tighter) :-)
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Old March 15th 17, 02:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Jan Heine on wheel building

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:51:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://janheine.wordpress.com

Today's blog post is about building strong wheels.


He seems to ignore the upper spokes. If the bottom spokes become
unloaded ( looser) then, logically, the top spokes must become more
highly loaded (tighter) :-)


Are you -sure- you want to say that on this group?


 




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