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Old May 7th 08, 10:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...+code%22#g47.5

Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for cycling on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2)
Year Proceeded against
2002 94
2003 95
2004 118
2005 143
2006 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000[1].

Yet the same government has been proclaiming a massive increase in the
amount of white paint put on footpaths to *encourage* cycling on them.

[1] IMHO the FPN data is meaningless without date from more years.
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Old May 7th 08, 11:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 21:10:08 GMT, Martin Dann
said in
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2002 94
2003 95
2004 118
2005 143
2006 145


/me sets up safepavement.org and proves[1] that prosecuting pavement
cyclist is responsible for one third of all fatalities (c) Cadbury's
Fruit & Nutcase plc, t/a Paul Smith

[1] By working back from the answer via some numbers that my stats
teacher might recognise as having been involved in some other
statistic somewhere at some point, which is of course the approved
method for robust statistical inference.

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Old May 7th 08, 11:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Martin Dann" wrote in message
...

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...+code%22#g47.5

Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for cycling
on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2)
Year Proceeded against
2002 94
2003 95
2004 118
2005 143
2006 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000[1].

Yet the same government has been proclaiming a massive increase in the
amount of white paint put on footpaths to *encourage* cycling on them.

[1] IMHO the FPN data is meaningless without date from more years.


There's not enough prosecutions of people riding their bikes on footpaths.
Bikes belong on the road.


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Old May 8th 08, 08:00 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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vernon said the following on 07/05/2008 23:16:

There's not enough prosecutions of people riding their bikes on footpaths.
Bikes belong on the road.


Yup - absolutely. Yet as Martin pointed out, the government are
encouraging pavement cycling by the use of magic paint.

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Old May 8th 08, 09:17 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Martin Dann writtificated

Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for
cycling on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2) Year


2006 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000


Yay. I'm slightly surprised at so many going to the magistrates court.
Are those 145 idiots that thought the police had got the law wrong, cheeky
buggers that hadn't paid the fine or can you get sent straight to to the
magistrate?
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Old May 8th 08, 09:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Mark T wrote:

Martin Dann writtificated


Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for
cycling on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2) Year


2006 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000


Yay. I'm slightly surprised at so many going to the magistrates court.
Are those 145 idiots that thought the police had got the law wrong, cheeky
buggers that hadn't paid the fine or can you get sent straight to to the
magistrate?


The offence can go straight to court, and as we all know, 145 is
remarkably low, given the frequency of that particular practice.

Remember that TV a few months ago about the CoL Police enforcing the
laws (red lights, one-way streets, footway cycling)? At a guess, I would
think we were shown only the most "entertaining" cases - but a couple of
them were highly indignant at having been stopped. There was one
bike-courier mouthing off at the police for having had the effrontery to
challange his behaviour, then he started on the camera crew before being
arrested for offensive behaviour. Offhand, I can't remember whether he
had ignored a light or cycled on the footway just before being stopped,
but I would think that his case is likely to be one of the sort that
goes straight to court. He didn't appear to be in any mood to accept and
pay a fixed penalty.

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Old May 8th 08, 12:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 50% increase in cyclists prosecuted for cycling on footpaths2002-2006

On May 7, 10:10*pm, Martin Dann wrote:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...3&s=%22highway....

Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for cycling on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2)
Year * * * Proceeded against
2002 * * * 94
2003 * * * 95
2004 * * * 118
2005 * * * 143
2006 * * * 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000[1].



Long overdue.

Calum

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Old May 8th 08, 03:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Quoting vernon :
There's not enough prosecutions of people riding their bikes on footpaths.
Bikes belong on the road.


They do, but should the police really prioritise this over the large
supply of clowns flinging two-ton metal boxes over the country at Warp
Nine?
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Old May 8th 08, 04:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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David Damerell writtificated

There's not enough prosecutions of people riding their bikes on
footpaths. Bikes belong on the road.


They do, but should the police really prioritise this over the large
supply of clowns flinging two-ton metal boxes over the country at Warp
Nine?


No, but then again they wouldn't have to.
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Old May 8th 08, 05:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 21:10:08 GMT, Martin Dann
wrote:


http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...+code%22#g47.5

Number of defendants proceeded against at magistrates' courts for cycling on a pavement, England and Wales 2002-06(l)(2)
Year Proceeded against
2002 94
2003 95
2004 118
2005 143
2006 145


Plus an increase in FPNs from 665 to 821 between 1999 and 2000[1].

Yet the same government has been proclaiming a massive increase in the
amount of white paint put on footpaths to *encourage* cycling on them.

[1] IMHO the FPN data is meaningless without date from more years.


Of those 145, how many were innocent? Without knowing that is it as
meaningless as reports that a fish was seen in Sozhou (pronounced
sue-joe) Creek through Shanghai. Without knowing if the fish was
alive or dead it is useless as evidence that the Creek is less
polluted.
 




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