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Old July 4th 20, 05:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jeff Liebermann
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Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc. For example:
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US0669112-santa-cruz-ca/
Scroll down to "Transportation to Work". 9% of Santa Cruz city
commuters ride bicycles to work. That includes workers 16 years or
older. I'm not sure if it includes students. The data is from
"American Community Survey" ACS 2018 5 year average except where
tagged with a "*" which uses 1 year data.

In the lower right, click on "Show Data" to produce a summary table.
For the source data click "Show Table".

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/
with raw data coming from the US Census burro and displayed on:
https://censusreporter.org

I live in the city of Ben Lomond, CA:
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US0605332-ben-lomond-ca/
which has 0% bicycle commuters. Oh well.



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Old July 4th 20, 06:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/


That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old July 4th 20, 10:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/


That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski


Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Much of Oregon is sparsely populated. The lower left-hand corner is basically empty. We have one school district covering 7,500 square miles that has a public boarding school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Union_High_School

Oregon has a population density of 35.6 persons/sq mile, and Ohio has a population density of 282 persons/sq mile. Many Ohio cities are dense and dead flat. And yet Oregon has infinitely more commuter cyclists than Ohio. Why is that? Why are you failing to get people on bikes? Do you hate cyclists?

-- Jay Beattie.



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Old July 4th 20, 10:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:19:02 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote to Frank Krygowski:
Do you hate cyclists?


Nope. Other way round. Cyclists hate Frank Krygowski for his lies, his bad statistics, and his prissy moralising.

Andre Jute
Who is the loser you would most like NOT to see on your favourite ride?
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Old July 5th 20, 12:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On 7/4/2020 5:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/


That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski


Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Or over 90%, if you look at just the 3rd through 12th house on Kittiwake
St. in the Hawthorne area. Those people all work at Mama's Hot Buns
bakery and can't afford cars. (Fredrick lives in the 8th house and gets
to work on his pogo stick.) So which figure should we use if we want to
compare states?

Much of Oregon is sparsely populated. The lower left-hand corner is basically empty. We have one school district covering 7,500 square miles that has a public boarding school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Union_High_School


And that's a major reason the glorious dream of turning America into
Amsterdam is absolutely nuts. Big bike mode shares work only in tiny and
unusual places.

Oregon has a population density of 35.6 persons/sq mile, and Ohio has a population density of 282 persons/sq mile. Many Ohio cities are dense and dead flat. And yet Oregon has infinitely more commuter cyclists than Ohio. Why is that?


Fashion. Fashion is weird and powerful.


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old July 5th 20, 01:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jeff Liebermann
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 14:19:00 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/


That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski


Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Is that a residential area, industrial area, or something else? The
problem with commuting numbers is that they're bases on where a person
lives, not where they work. If you look at an industrial area, where
fewer people reside and which is a commuter destination, the numbers
are very low. However, if you point to a residential area, which is
where the commuters live, the numbers will be higher. I'm not
familiar with Portland and don't know the various districts.

Do you hate cyclists?


Judging solely by the discourse in R.B.T., I would guess(tm) that
everyone hates everyone else. Oddly, users of R.B.T. haven't formed
into gangs, cliques, parties, or tag teams, as they have in other
newsgroups. Why is that? Is it because users of R.B.T. are so
fiercely independent that they can't agree with anyone and therefore
hate everyone?



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Old July 5th 20, 01:29 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:16:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 7/4/2020 5:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/

That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski


Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Or over 90%, if you look at just the 3rd through 12th house on Kittiwake
St. in the Hawthorne area. Those people all work at Mama's Hot Buns
bakery and can't afford cars. (Fredrick lives in the 8th house and gets
to work on his pogo stick.) So which figure should we use if we want to
compare states?

Which poses a question.
I'm not sure what "Hawthorne
you are referring to but the minimum wage law in Oregon sets minimum
salary at $11.25/hour, or $90/day, $450 a week.

Isn't this sufficient money to live on and buy a second hand motor car
in the U.S. today?

Much of Oregon is sparsely populated. The lower left-hand corner is basically empty. We have one school district covering 7,500 square miles that has a public boarding school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Union_High_School


And that's a major reason the glorious dream of turning America into
Amsterdam is absolutely nuts. Big bike mode shares work only in tiny and
unusual places.

Oregon has a population density of 35.6 persons/sq mile, and Ohio has a population density of 282 persons/sq mile. Many Ohio cities are dense and dead flat. And yet Oregon has infinitely more commuter cyclists than Ohio. Why is that?


Fashion. Fashion is weird and powerful.

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John B.

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Old July 5th 20, 05:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 4:16:07 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 5:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/

That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski


Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Or over 90%, if you look at just the 3rd through 12th house on Kittiwake
St. in the Hawthorne area. Those people all work at Mama's Hot Buns
bakery and can't afford cars. (Fredrick lives in the 8th house and gets
to work on his pogo stick.) So which figure should we use if we want to
compare states?

Much of Oregon is sparsely populated. The lower left-hand corner is basically empty. We have one school district covering 7,500 square miles that has a public boarding school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Union_High_School


And that's a major reason the glorious dream of turning America into
Amsterdam is absolutely nuts. Big bike mode shares work only in tiny and
unusual places.

Oregon has a population density of 35.6 persons/sq mile, and Ohio has a population density of 282 persons/sq mile. Many Ohio cities are dense and dead flat. And yet Oregon has infinitely more commuter cyclists than Ohio. Why is that?


Fashion. Fashion is weird and powerful.


If it is fashion, then you need to figure out how to make cycling fashionable in your little piece of Ohio. The BTA managed to do that in Portland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclin...rtland,_Oregon You need to pick it up and not cop-out about it being fashion.

-- Jay Beattie.

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Old July 5th 20, 05:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default US Bicycle Commuting Statistics

On 7/5/2020 12:24 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 4:16:07 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 5:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:07:55 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/4/2020 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Percentage of bicycle commuters by US city, county, census area, skool
district, etc.

Data aggregation is by:
https://github.com/censusreporter/

That's a nicely done site! Very handy.

Going by state, I see Ohio has 0% bike-to-work mode share. California
and Florida have 1%. Even Oregon has only 2%.


--
- Frank Krygowski

Or 15%, depending on where you look in Oregon.
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US97214-97214/


Or over 90%, if you look at just the 3rd through 12th house on Kittiwake
St. in the Hawthorne area. Those people all work at Mama's Hot Buns
bakery and can't afford cars. (Fredrick lives in the 8th house and gets
to work on his pogo stick.) So which figure should we use if we want to
compare states?

Much of Oregon is sparsely populated. The lower left-hand corner is basically empty. We have one school district covering 7,500 square miles that has a public boarding school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Union_High_School


And that's a major reason the glorious dream of turning America into
Amsterdam is absolutely nuts. Big bike mode shares work only in tiny and
unusual places.

Oregon has a population density of 35.6 persons/sq mile, and Ohio has a population density of 282 persons/sq mile. Many Ohio cities are dense and dead flat. And yet Oregon has infinitely more commuter cyclists than Ohio. Why is that?


Fashion. Fashion is weird and powerful.


If it is fashion, then you need to figure out how to make cycling fashionable in your little piece of Ohio. The BTA managed to do that in Portland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclin...rtland,_Oregon You need to pick it up and not cop-out about it being fashion.


I don't think I "need to" make cycling fashionable here, any more than
some guy in Tibet needs to make snorkeling fashionable, or some guy in
Panama needs to promote cross country skiing.

Portland if far, far different from here and from almost all areas of
the country. Your population density is more than double that of our
area's biggest city, and nearly ten times that of our county. That alone
means typical transportation trips will be much farther, on average.

Then there's weather. Because I used to visit there frequently, I got
interested in comparing weather data. On an annual basis, our averages
are not much different; BUT our winters are cold, snowy and icy and
slushy while yours are mild and moist. We both get summer heat, but
yours is dry desert air while ours is humid air from the Gulf of Mexico.
(Seriously, people out west seem to have no idea what heat + humidity
does to a person.)

And vast areas of Portland are in a flat river plain, and those areas do
a lot to bump up your bike mode share. We don't have your West Hills,
but we don't have much "flat" either. Ebikes may make that less
important, but hills deter biking. They just do.

You have a three-layer mass transit system (bus, trolley, light rail)
that is heavily used. That allows many people to not bother owning a
car. We have a little-used bus system that only recently got bike
carriers on the buses. (You'll never guess who put in a request that
they do that.)

Then there's the economic differences. Youngstown became front page news
in the late 1970s, when its major industry - steel - shut down almost
all at once. Sadly, it's never quite recovered from that. The poverty
rate is high, and part of the recovery plan consists of razing blocks of
empty city houses. That reduces blight, but adds distance to the average
utility trip distance, especially because the city is officially a "food
desert," with residents having to go to the suburbs for groceries - to
plazas with multi-acre parking lots for all the cars.

My area is as different from yours as your area is different from
Amsterdam.

But if I do get inspired to heed your advice, I think I'll start first
on the climate. I'm getting tired of the cold winters and our current
heat wave - low to mid 90s with oppressive humidity for the next week or
two, at least.

Wish me luck changing that!

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