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On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 10:47:16 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
AMuzi writes:

You seem to be unfamiliar with The Confederation's
cultu

http://modernfirearms.net/assault/sw...-stgw57-e.html

Swiss neutrality is not an intellectual exercise.
In military theory, Swiss are considered both
formidable in defense and also ungarrisonable.

There is no surprise as to their engineering and
industrial capabilities to do rifles and guns and all
sort of such things. Actually I expected that.
But a modern army and air force I assumed they didn't
hold because I never heard of Swiss military
maneuvers, or of any huge weapon systems like tanks
and fighters as you hear of from other countries, not
just the big producers like the UK, France, Russia and
so on but also countries like Poland or Gruzia getting
US fighters, Denmark sending a sub to Iraq and so on,
not to mention the Arab states getting all the top
notch gear from the US and Russia. Never heard of
Switzerland in any such setting. As for the
intellectual exercise I know because Sweden had an
incredibly strong and self-reliant force at the time
we were boasting the most about being neutral or
unaligned (which was a scam as we were in the US or at
least the anti-SSSR/Russia camp in all but words).
Now this is mostly gone tho. Finland kept theirs which
is why they have a much sounder view of Russia with
much less hysteria. But they are more basic. We have
our own subs and fighters! But it is an open question
which approach is better. As for Switzerland perhaps
it is not comparable to either.

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Hmm, you might be right. Google swiss navy, what you get is this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swiss+navy

might make good chain lube

Doug Landau writes:

Hmm, you might be right. Google swiss navy, what you
get is this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swiss+navy

might make good chain lube

Ha ha, Google Swiss Navy

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AMuzi wrote:
On 6/28/2017 9:01 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
John B. wrote:

On a per capita basis I suspect one of the
largest in Europe. " all able-bodied male
citizens, are conscripted when they reach the
age of majority". About 18,000 new soldiers
are enlisted annually.

Do they have any gear as well save for ice-axes
and the Swiss army knife?

How about a nice cup of STFU?
https://www.rt.com/news/249109-sweden-submarine-hunt-workboat/
https://www.rt.com/news/392009-eight-hoods-added-sweden-no-go-zone/

Swiss Army surplus:
https://vtarmynavy.com/swiss-army-air-raid-siren.html
https://vtarmynavy.com/swiss-military-sniper-net
https://vtarmynavy.com/swiss-s-i-g-gun-cleaning-kit

Swedouche army surplus:
https://www.raeer.com/images/full/24678i-Schwed-Kopfkissen-Po.jpg
https://www.raeer.com/images/full/74160i-Schwed-Doppelduschko.jpg
https://www.raeer.com/images/full/44330i-Schwed-Handwaschb%C3%BCrs.jpg


You seem to be unfamiliar with The Confederation's cultu

What else did you expect?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:51:59 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/28/2017 9:01 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
John B. wrote:

On a per capita basis I suspect one of the
largest in Europe. " all able-bodied male
citizens, are conscripted when they reach the
age of majority". About 18,000 new soldiers
are enlisted annually.

Do they have any gear as well save for ice-axes
and the Swiss army knife?


You seem to be unfamiliar with The Confederation's cultu

http://modernfirearms.net/assault/sw...-stgw57-e.html

Swiss neutrality is not an intellectual exercise. In
military theory, Swiss are considered both formidable in
defense and also ungarrisonable.

I believe that there are 28 members of the E.U. Switzerland's military
capability exceeds all but eight of the members.
But more important, as the Germans determined, the country has
virtually no strategic value.
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Cheers,

John B.

Doug Landau wrote:

Hmm, you might be right. Google swiss navy,
what you get is this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swiss+navy

might make good chain lube

I took a look at that page again and it says

Land-locked nations are NOT penalized for
lack of a navy; naval powers ARE penalized
for lack of diversity in available assets.

It is actually tricky! In terms of traditional
decence I agree but if you envision a global
all-out war like they did in the
cold war period when the nuke subs are firing
at you it wont help you not having an ocean of
your own. However for the Swiss or any other
"land-locked" nation to develop and maintain
a navy in the sense other countries do - just
bizarre, so I have to agree with the rule as it
stands.

There is also another interesting rule:

Nuclear stockpiles are NOT taken into
account but recognized / suspected nuclear
powers receive a bonus.

For a while I wondered if that's why Ukraine
and Belarus scored comparatively high on the
list. But when I think about it I think they
handed over their nukes to Russia in the 90s.
Probably a lot of old-school but very good
"Made in the USSR" hardware there tho...

Speaking of Russia, here is the global list:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

USA is number one, Russia 2, China 3. Sort of
the intuitive world order I suppose.

By the way there was recently an american
diplomat who told Putin America has the world's
most deadly nuclear arsenal. Putin then said he
thought it was a strange statement.
Like someone had *denied* that... (?)

Ha ha

Also, you can follow the link for each nation
to see a breakdown what they have. I didn't
find any reference to military bikes tho

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On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 01:43:19 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Doug Landau wrote:

Hmm, you might be right. Google swiss navy,
what you get is this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swiss+navy

might make good chain lube

I took a look at that page again and it says

Land-locked nations are NOT penalized for
lack of a navy; naval powers ARE penalized
for lack of diversity in available assets.

It is actually tricky! In terms of traditional
decence I agree but if you envision a global
all-out war like they did in the
cold war period when the nuke subs are firing
at you it wont help you not having an ocean of
your own. However for the Swiss or any other
"land-locked" nation to develop and maintain
a navy in the sense other countries do - just
bizarre, so I have to agree with the rule as it
stands.

There is also another interesting rule:

Nuclear stockpiles are NOT taken into
account but recognized / suspected nuclear
powers receive a bonus.

For a while I wondered if that's why Ukraine
and Belarus scored comparatively high on the
list. But when I think about it I think they
handed over their nukes to Russia in the 90s.
Probably a lot of old-school but very good
"Made in the USSR" hardware there tho...

Speaking of Russia, here is the global list:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

USA is number one, Russia 2, China 3. Sort of
the intuitive world order I suppose.

By the way there was recently an american
diplomat who told Putin America has the world's
most deadly nuclear arsenal. Putin then said he
thought it was a strange statement.
Like someone had *denied* that... (?)

Ha ha

Also, you can follow the link for each nation
to see a breakdown what they have. I didn't
find any reference to military bikes tho

But actually Switzerland does have a navy in the sense of having
"a flotilla of military patrol boats" for use on their lakes, some of
which lie across international borders, so one might say that the
Swiss have a navy which operates in international waters :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

John B. writes:

But actually Switzerland does have a navy in the
sense of having "a flotilla of military patrol
boats" for use on their lakes, some of which lie
across international borders, so one might say that
the Swiss have a navy which operates in
international waters :-)

And I love that! When you do the most of whatever
there is. You never know where it will take you, but
it is something positive, for sure. Simpleton whiners
will never understand that all intelligent activity is
valuable, be it "land-locked" or not!

Another example that comes to mind is a famous race
I just read about in a Lucky Luke comic, namely along
the Mississippi river between two passenger steam
ferries. It was in 1870, and the winning time between
New Orleans and St. Louis was 3 days, 18 hours, and
13 minutes. It says the record still stands for steam
ships

But I suppose there is a limit somewhere.
Like Denmark, I hope they weren't "penalized" for not
having mountaineering fighting units (not that I know
what equipment/training goes into that).
Their Himmelbjerget ("sky mountain") at 147 m or
482 feet - as they say, "if we had a mountain, it
would be high as well"

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On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 02:55:32 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

John B. writes:

But actually Switzerland does have a navy in the
sense of having "a flotilla of military patrol
boats" for use on their lakes, some of which lie
across international borders, so one might say that
the Swiss have a navy which operates in
international waters :-)

And I love that! When you do the most of whatever
there is. You never know where it will take you, but
it is something positive, for sure. Simpleton whiners
will never understand that all intelligent activity is
valuable, be it "land-locked" or not!

Another example that comes to mind is a famous race
I just read about in a Lucky Luke comic, namely along
the Mississippi river between two passenger steam
ferries. It was in 1870, and the winning time between
New Orleans and St. Louis was 3 days, 18 hours, and
13 minutes. It says the record still stands for steam
ships

The Robert E Lee's record still stands as the record for commercial
vessels.

In the late 1800's the Mississippi river was navigable approximately
from New Orleans to St. Louis and the race was very much an
advertising event.

--
Cheers,

John B.

John B. writes:

The Robert E Lee's record still stands as the record
for commercial vessels.

In the late 1800's the Mississippi river was
navigable approximately from New Orleans to St.
Louis and the race was very much an
advertising event.

If you can get a copy of the comic, do it. It is a lot
of fun Probably even more for a "boat nut". Mine is
printed in Belgium in 1984. It doesn't say what the
title is for the English edition, but the French
language original title is "En Remontant Le
Mississipi".

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