Law must change to tackle reckless cyclists, says widower of KimBriggs killed in crash with illegal bike

On 26/08/17 09:44, Peter Keller wrote:

Laws of physics.
If a car hits me at 35mph there is 36% more energy available to mangle
me than if a car hits me at 30 mph.

It's worse than that. By Highway Code figures (ie, the perfect driver)
the driver doing 30mph can stop the vehicle 7m earlier. If it happens
that it can be stopped in just enough time to give you a gentle touch,
the faster one would hit you at 20mph.

On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 7:25:04 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:39:23 +0100, Simon Jester wrote:

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 7:59:50 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Matt Briggs, 45, said the law had to be changed to deal with the growing
menace of “reckless� cyclists and those who choose to ride “potentially
lethal� bikes without front brakes.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3618976.html

The law needs to be changed to make illegal bicycles illegal?
I will never understand motorist logic.
But how can you expect reasoned argument from someone who uses 'I was only going 35mph' in a 30mph limit as a defence for speeding.
Or 'The light had only been red for 10 seconds'.

Why do you think 35 is speeding?

Because it is over the speed limit.

Is it magically far more dangerous to go just 5mph faster?

How about 10mph faster or 20 or 30, where do you draw the line.

See a doctor about your OCD.

One Cool Dude?

Even the pigs only prosecute for 10mph over in most areas.

Even these?

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...laze-wiltshire

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 3:34:44 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:03:05 +0100, Simon Jester wrote:

On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 7:25:04 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 18:39:23 +0100, Simon Jester wrote:

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 7:59:50 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Matt Briggs, 45, said the law had to be changed to deal with the growing
menace of “reckless� cyclists and those who choose to ride “potentially
lethal� bikes without front brakes.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3618976.html

The law needs to be changed to make illegal bicycles illegal?
I will never understand motorist logic.
But how can you expect reasoned argument from someone who uses 'I was only going 35mph' in a 30mph limit as a defence for speeding.
Or 'The light had only been red for 10 seconds'.

Why do you think 35 is speeding?

Because it is over the speed limit.

Just as I thought, you have no brain.

So why am I more intelligent than you?


Is it magically far more dangerous to go just 5mph faster?

How about 10mph faster or 20 or 30, where do you draw the line.

Somewhere sensible. The police usually pick 10. Your car will vary by 5 before you even notice. Slight twitch of your right foot, change in slope of the road etc. We're not robots, we aren't that precise.


So why do we let such fallible humans use these dangerous vehicles on public roads?
Or maybe you should learn to drive.


See a doctor about your OCD.

One Cool Dude?

Grow up.

And become an un-cool dude?


Even the pigs only prosecute for 10mph over in most areas.

Even these?

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...laze-wiltshire

That's just ****ing weird. So basically they didn't save animals, they save the farmer some profits.


That was their job.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:34:39 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

But how can you expect reasoned argument from someone who uses 'I was only going 35mph' in a 30mph limit as a defence for speeding.
Or 'The light had only been red for 10 seconds'.

Why do you think 35 is speeding?

Because it is over the speed limit.

Just as I thought,

THERE's the snag again, Birdbrain!

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MID:

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:24:14 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH idiot's BLATHER unread again

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wouldn't hate them so much."
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On 25/08/17 19:39, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 7:59:50 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Matt Briggs, 45, said the law had to be changed to deal with the
growing menace of “reckless� cyclists and those who choose to ride
“potentially lethal� bikes without front brakes.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3618976.html


The law needs to be changed to make illegal bicycles illegal? I will
never understand motorist logic. But how can you expect reasoned
argument from someone who uses 'I was only going 35mph' in a 30mph
limit as a defence for speeding. Or 'The light had only been red for
10 seconds'.

She'd have been fine if she'd been wearing a helmet.

On 26.08.2017 21:18, TMS320 wrote:
On 26/08/17 09:44, Peter Keller wrote:

Laws of physics.
If a car hits me at 35mph there is 36% more energy available to mangle
me than if a car hits me at 30 mph.

It's worse than that. By Highway Code figures (ie, the perfect driver)
the driver doing 30mph can stop the vehicle 7m earlier. If it happens
that it can be stopped in just enough time to give you a gentle touch,
the faster one would hit you at 20mph.

Oh yes. I can quite believe it!
I have this impression in my head (sorry I don't have the source to
hand) that if a car hits a pedestrian:
at 20mph there is about a 20% chance of the pedestrian dying,
at 30mph about 44%
at 40mph about 70%.
Besides, at 20mph the pedestrian has a much better chance of running
away from the collision.

On 27.08.2017 03:17, Simon Jester wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 3:34:44 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:03:05 +0100, Simon Jester wrote:



One Cool Dude?

Grow up.

And become an un-cool dude?


Even worse.

Growing up means becoming like James Wilkinson Sword.
Now there is a terrible thought.