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"Badger_South" wrote in message
... But do you think that many casual to intermediate female cyclists wear bike shorts and nothing else? When I've worn bike shorts, I've never worn underwear, even when I was definitely in the "casual" category. As for the lubing bit -- if I'm doing a long ride -- longer than 50 miles or so -- I'll use A&D ointment or Bag Balm. These sorts of petroleum jelly ointments have anticeptics, and not only do you get the lubrication, you hold down the possibility of boils and other nasty infections. I always get free samples of Chamois Butt'r before STP, and it's a nice lube, but I don't know about its anticeptic qualities. PS, I haven't had a "real" chamois in what -- 20 years? I agree with Mr. Harris: it was a pain to maintain. And to answer the query of the OP, under tights, I always just wear bike shorts. If I had padded tights, I'd go commando, just like under regular bike shorts. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply Home of the meditative cyclist: http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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"Badger_South" wrote in message ... Note: I'm just a newbie, so some of the above may be totally wrong. For the "real stuff", ask one of the regulars who does this... You're making a distinction that doesn't exist. Whether you use cream or not has nothing to do with the material the pad is made of. I don't know anything about Armstrong's shorts (thank God) but riders -- pro racers or otherwise -- who use "real chamois" are rare. I suppose if you could find some sort of seamless underwear that doesn't bunch and is made of wicking fabric, you could wear it under a pad. But why would you? You might as well wear your bike shorts inside-out. RichC |
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"Maggie" wrote in message om... "Rich Clark" wrote in message ... Wear underwear only under street clothes. RichC Why? Is underwear mandatory? God, no. I should have said "if at all." RichC |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:54:26 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
wrote: "Badger_South" wrote in message .. . But do you think that many casual to intermediate female cyclists wear bike shorts and nothing else? When I've worn bike shorts, I've never worn underwear, even when I was definitely in the "casual" category. Check. As for the lubing bit -- if I'm doing a long ride -- longer than 50 miles or so -- I'll use A&D ointment or Bag Balm. These sorts of petroleum jelly I was under the impression that Bag Balm might cause your skin to get less 'tough', or the skin more um, tender. I have used that very thing, but I used it after the rides if I started getting a little slice. Perhaps that was backwards. A&D also works for me post ride and usually clears up any little slices (which are, I think, where the skin kind of tears from the see-sawing motion. Not sure, since I can't see my own...well, anyway) ointments have anticeptics, and not only do you get the lubrication, you hold down the possibility of boils and other nasty infections. I always get free samples of Chamois Butt'r before STP, and it's a nice lube, but I don't know about its anticeptic qualities. PS, I haven't had a "real" chamois in what -- 20 years? I agree with Mr. Harris: it was a pain to maintain. OK, I stand corrected. I'm sure with the TdF riders they can toss the shorts when it gets old or stiff or bad, dunno. Thus the comment to 'ask the pros'. Thanks for your guidance. I only know what I saw on the Lance Chronicles (LOL). And to answer the query of the OP, under tights, I always just wear bike shorts. If I had padded tights, I'd go commando, just like under regular bike shorts. You da Man...er...tell it! ;-D -B |
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Badger_South wrote:
When you wear bike shorts with real chamois, you usually apply a substance called 'chamois cream' to this material, and then you put on the bike shorts. I'd love to know if any women use chamois cream, and what their experience of it is (they can email me directly rather than discuss it on the NG if they prefer -- email addy works as is). I shudder at the idea of the stuff. -km -- Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts proud to be owned by a yorkie |
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Arthur Harris wrote:
The nice thing about unpadded tights over padded shorts is that if the weather warms up, you can simply remore the tights. But if that's not the case, I'd much rather have just one layer. Unfortunately, padded long tights are really hard to find. I know where to get 'em, but it's not in a bike shop. Matt O. |
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"Badger_South" wrote
I was under the impression that Bag Balm might cause your skin to get less 'tough', or the skin more um, tender. I have used that very thing, but I used it after the rides if I started getting a little slice. Perhaps that was backwards. A&D also works for me post ride and usually clears up any little slices (which are, I think, where the skin kind of tears from the see-sawing motion. Not sure, since I can't see my own...well, anyway) The principal benefit of the "lubes", besides the obvious reducing friction, is keeping the skin from softening from sweat. The main ingredients of Bag Balm and A&D are petrolatum jelly and lanolin, both effective at waterproofing the skin. This is why A&D is primarily used for diaper rash prevention. It may help after a rash has formed, but my pediatrician recommended an ointment with zinc oxide for that, called "Balmex". My kids have been out of diapers for a while now, but I still keep both products around. |
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"Badger_South" wrote
But do you think that many casual to intermediate female cyclists wear bike shorts and nothing else? Guys, no problem. I just can't picture it, I don't understand what makes things different for M vs. F, nor do my wife or daughter... |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:42:35 GMT, "Peter Cole"
wrote: "Badger_South" wrote I was under the impression that Bag Balm might cause your skin to get less 'tough', or the skin more um, tender. I have used that very thing, but I used it after the rides if I started getting a little slice. Perhaps that was backwards. A&D also works for me post ride and usually clears up any little slices (which are, I think, where the skin kind of tears from the see-sawing motion. Not sure, since I can't see my own...well, anyway) The principal benefit of the "lubes", besides the obvious reducing friction, is keeping the skin from softening from sweat. The main ingredients of Bag Balm and A&D are petrolatum jelly and lanolin, both effective at waterproofing the skin. This is why A&D is primarily used for diaper rash prevention. It may help after a rash has formed, but my pediatrician recommended an ointment with zinc oxide for that, called "Balmex". My kids have been out of diapers for a while now, but I still keep both products around. Oh-kay that was the 'missing' element. It's the sweat and water which softens the skin, as in pruney fingers, and the petroleum based lubes waterproof. Of course. Didn't get it until you said that, but, duh. -B |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:45:02 GMT, "Peter Cole"
wrote: "Badger_South" wrote But do you think that many casual to intermediate female cyclists wear bike shorts and nothing else? Guys, no problem. I just can't picture it, I don't understand what makes things different for M vs. F, nor do my wife or daughter... Well-l-l, the 'ickky factor', perhaps. Ask Black Rose, she just posted about not being able to imagine it and wants to take it to email. Guess it's an old stereotype, and one I was playing up for humor. Sorry if that came across as prejudice. Nowadays, women love to get muddy just as much as men, and they are actually among the toughest of the Adventure Racers. What I meant by 'I can't picture it' was 'I can't picture the ladies as being as eager to cover their butts with grease and ride around with no underwear. But that's just me. (and actually I'm just light heartedly playing around) -B. |
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