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what Jesus would have ridden
On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote: R Brickston wrote: We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for a fact what Jesus would have ridden... http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg That was a letdown. I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no, he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on weekends. I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior. Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive? *The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store. |
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THE GOLDEN RULE
"george conklin" wrote in
k.net: That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like it has in the past. You are part of the problem. -- fnood fneep gnip gnop http://greep.flood.nit |
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why you don't see commuters
"donquijote1954" wrote in
ups.com: That's why you don't see commuters on bikes around. Where do you live, because I see plenty. -- fnood fneep gnip gnop http://greep.flood.nit |
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THE GOLDEN RULE
Kevan Smith wrote:
"george conklin" wrote in k.net: That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like it has in the past. You are part of the problem. A scathing blow! LOL |
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"Kevan Smith" wrote in message . 170.91... "george conklin" wrote in k.net: That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like it has in the past. You are part of the problem. You mean that you think that Long Island was created by Al Gore? Long-term changes in the earth's climate are well documented and we have been in a warming cycle for 10,000 years now. I suggest a geology major for you. |
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george conklin wrote: "Sojourner" wrote in message oups.com... It has long been known that global warming, ---if it really happens quickly, as opposed to what has been going on for 10,000 years, that is--- will enable the human population to expand, not contract. In short, the planet will become more friendly to the human species. This is what Europeans hate. Not by any credible scientist, it hasn't. In fact, there are grave concerns regarding fruiting crops and grains - the change in climate is already interfering with pollenation and maturation of crops we depend on for our food. Sojourner That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops. Dude. You're ignoring the LOSS of land for growing through desertification and rising seas, and the loss of crops, and the loss of pollinators, and billions of displaced people, and the loss of food animals and wildlife etc. etc. etc. We don't have wooly mammoths to help us through the long ice age anymore. You know that people in the last ice age weren't all that numerous, and they weren't all that healthy, either. Global warming is not a Good Thing. You're loony if you think it is! Oceans rising just 2" or 3" constitute MILES land lost all around the coastline of every island and continent on the planet. Some islands will be lost altogether. Sojourner |
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what Jesus would have ridden
R Brickston wrote: On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: R Brickston wrote: We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for a fact what Jesus would have ridden... http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg That was a letdown. I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no, he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on weekends. I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior. Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive? *The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store. Mohammed would have ridden another bicycle. In no way he'd do like the prince and other royalty of the Oil Kingdom who today also drive SUVs. In other words, all those who got money drive SUVs no matter what religion they claim to profess --which they deny in their very acts. Confusing? |
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THE GOLDEN RULE
Kevan Smith wrote: "george conklin" wrote in k.net: That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like it has in the past. You are part of the problem. I agree. We'll have his name written in the list of guilty people who caused Global Warming. And then he'll burn in the eternal fire of Hell, where all the Christian Republicans go. |
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what Jesus would have ridden
On 25 Jul 2006 16:35:40 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote: R Brickston wrote: On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: R Brickston wrote: We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for a fact what Jesus would have ridden... http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg That was a letdown. I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no, he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on weekends. I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior. Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive? *The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store. Mohammed would have ridden another bicycle. In no way he'd do like the prince and other royalty of the Oil Kingdom who today also drive SUVs. In other words, all those who got money drive SUVs no matter what religion they claim to profess --which they deny in their very acts. Confusing? Not confusing. I was on a Pan Am flight eons ago and this particular 747 had full length curtains floor to ceiling next to the windows in various places. According to my travel agent girlfriend, this particular plane was of a small fleet used for service to the Middle East. The woman would board dressed in the tribal clothing, covered from head to toe. Once the plane was out of what she called "Mecca airspace," the women would close the curtains and change into the latest Parisien haute couture. Of course, this was back in economy class, their menfolk were all up in First and Business. |
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why you don't see commuters
Kevan Smith wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in ups.com: That's why you don't see commuters on bikes around. Where do you live, because I see plenty. Miami, Fla. I think the only place where you see them around here is the very small South Beach or Key West, 160 miles away, both with very limited parking. Otherwise you may see some bum here and there or the guy with the suspended license riding on the sidewalk with a Mickey Mouse bike. If you hear the stories from other cyclists, it sounds scary out there. A lady friend was the target for an egg thrown from a car and now she's scared... Nobody rational does that around here. Only a Quixote... Anyway the national average of bike commuters for the whole nation is 1%. Letter of support: Jorge Serrano wrote: I hope you are succesful with you bicycle campaing. I ride at a bicycle lane (one of the few in south Florida) near my home. Believe it or not even where there are designated lanes there are problem with cyclist rights. In my case it's moslty pedestrians sharing the lane. I contacted the Department of Transportation and as it turns out pedestrians have to stick to the sidewalks if they are available. Guess what, there are sidewalks available right next to the bike only lane and still people create unnecessary danger illegaly for no good reason. I have been meaning to start some kind of action in regards to this. My wife and daughter also use the lane often. I have found it dificult to take on another task right now since my plate is plenty full. If I do anything else I will let you know about any helpful information I were to come accross. Besides that I will tell you that my strong suspicion that one of the reasons that South Florida is one of the most dangerous places for pedestrians and cyclists is, I hate to say it, but the ignorance of people which come from places where laws such as bike only lanes are totally alien to them. I'm hispanic so obviously I'm not being racist but rather a realist and would make the point that the biggest problem is ignorance. This would be resolved by divulging information about street safety and pedestrian and cyclist rights. For example one of my ideas I'm planning is to put up signs explaining the law around the bike lane I frequent. Perhaps something like that might be helpful to you. I would suggest you do websites such as: http://www.floridabicycle.org/whoweare.html http://www.floridacycling.com/ There are others if you search the web. Good luck Phuntsok |
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