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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
brink wrote:
"Arif Khokar" wrote in message ... Dave Head wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 15:14:50 -0700, "Arif Khokar" wrote: Are you saying you can only average 6 to 7 mph on a bike? I'm not very fast, but I can average 15 mph on a bike. That means I can make the commute in about 80 minutes give or take. Try 20 miles each way in Virginia today. 100 degrees out there. It was 90 degrees here, but I still rode 25 miles. I'd ride further, but I really don't have the time on weekdays. And maybe an expensive ride to the emergency room for heat exhaustion. I just keep up with fluid intake. My bike has an IV drip attachment for days like today. Mainline Gatorade and you're good to go. brink I got that topped. It was 112 here today. The local weather guy stated that all 48 states had temperatures topping the 90's and that it was supposed to be hotter here tomorrow. 115? Enough. I worked on 3 bikes in the morning until about 10 then went to take them all for a test ride and came back sweaty. It was already 92 by 10, and passed 100 at about 12:30 and was still 84 at 11 tonight. I may have to become a night time rider. As for the topic, I use a car with A/C to go to my LBS, wonder why. Bill Baka |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
"Pat" wrote in message ups.com... Welcome to Western New York. 6" of snow isn't worth getting all wound up about. Happens all the time. Buffalo gets some, but Rochester and Syracuse get piled on. Figure 10 FEET per year and about 30" per year. Lot of northern cities gets lots of snow -- and I would guess lots of cities in the Rockies do to. Even the school buses in Syracuse run through 6" of snow without thinking about it. Our children sometimes would even lose their boots in snow drifts on the way home from school. My wife went out and looked in each step depression to retrieve their shoes. |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
"Arif Khokar" wrote in message oups.com... John S. wrote: An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. What? The Tour de France averages 25 mph. Why can't we all do that? |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
"Arif Khokar" wrote in message ... Dave Head wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 15:14:50 -0700, "Arif Khokar" wrote: Are you saying you can only average 6 to 7 mph on a bike? I'm not very fast, but I can average 15 mph on a bike. That means I can make the commute in about 80 minutes give or take. Try 20 miles each way in Virginia today. 100 degrees out there. It was 90 degrees here, but I still rode 25 miles. Barefoot too? |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
On 17 Jul 2006 10:29:03 -0700, "John S." wrote:
An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. The commuter then does the same in reverse and arrives home at 7:00 The times assume he is able to find a lot of flat and downhill both ways with few traffic and stoplights. Incremental cost: New bike every year plus repairs $2,000; Medical expenses from road injuries $2,000 My $300 Trek 7100 is going on its fourth year, around 14,000 miles. I've paid about $300 over the years on various tuneups but flats and chains I handle myself. Not medical expenses. On days when weather is just too awful to commute by bike, I take a bus and train. My commute is 15 miles each way. It takes me, and I'm slow, 80 minutes each way. I do not, at the conclusion of my ride home, need to go to the gym. In fact, my cholesterol and ldl, which used to be very bad, are now excellent. The good HDL, previously low, is now excellent. My doctor freaked on my first exam after starting biking. Cost of heart attack, well, I'll hopefully never know. I don't need to make presentations at clients, but if I do, my company will arrange transportation. |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
In article et, george conklin wrote:
What? The Tour de France averages 25 mph. Why can't we all do that? It's not difficult to average in the 20s with out stoplights on flat ground with a decent bike. However, you might have noticed the mountains in the Tour de France... It would be just as valid to compare NASCAR, IRL, and pikes peak hill climb to regular commute driving. |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
Brent P wrote: In article . com, Pat wrote: Welcome to Western New York. 6" of snow isn't worth getting all wound up about. Happens all the time. But does traffic actually move faster than a bicycle? In chicago it doesn't when 6 inches is on the ground. I colleage from Westchester was in Syracuse and dreaded leaving an office at 5:00 to head towards home. He didn't want to sit in traffic. I told him not to worry about Syracuse's Rush Quarter-Hour. Seldom to these places have traffic tie-up that would have a bike going faster than a car. A big part of that is because "no one" lives in those cities anymore. Everyone uses the expressway and commutes. So the only tie up is on the way to the on-ramp. 6" of snow isn't all the much and drivers know how to handle it. It doesn't cause gridlock. It doesn't even cause schools to be closed. It doesn't cause schools to be closed here either... but there are more than enough morons and transplants driving to screw up the roads big time. I don't have a problem driving in snow, I have a problem driving around in snow with other people. Biking on packed snow -- especially snow over packed snow -- is very tricky because the tires aren't formulated for it. The rubber is too hard. Also, at 100 psi, you don't have enough contact with the ground. So bikes and motorcycles go away when the snow starts. I've ridden on ice BTW.... I ride in snow at least once a year. It's a bit a tricky... the bad thing is the brakes becoming useless with the snow/water/ice on the rims. FYI, snowshoes are about useless with 6" of snow. You really need a foot or more to make then worth wearing -- and then only if it's virgin snow. They don't do anything on packed snow. The person I was replying too said fresh 6" on top of snow already there. |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
dgk wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 10:29:03 -0700, "John S." wrote: An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. The commuter then does the same in reverse and arrives home at 7:00 The times assume he is able to find a lot of flat and downhill both ways with few traffic and stoplights. Incremental cost: New bike every year plus repairs $2,000; Medical expenses from road injuries $2,000 My $300 Trek 7100 is going on its fourth year, around 14,000 miles. I've paid about $300 over the years on various tuneups but flats and chains I handle myself. Not medical expenses. On days when weather is just too awful to commute by bike, I take a bus and train. My commute is 15 miles each way. It takes me, and I'm slow, 80 minutes each way. I do not, at the conclusion of my ride home, need to go to the gym. In fact, my cholesterol and ldl, which used to be very bad, are now excellent. The good HDL, previously low, is now excellent. My doctor freaked on my first exam after starting biking. Cost of heart attack, well, I'll hopefully never know. Yeah, I bet you'll feel strange when, year from now, you are laying in the hospital dying from nothing. :-) I don't need to make presentations at clients, but if I do, my company will arrange transportation. |
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Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!
Bill Sornson wrote: george conklin wrote: "donquijote1954" wrote in message oups.com... "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. Many of us are enslaved to our wives too, but that does not mean we want a divorce. Both are necessary for a normal life. Wow. So much wrong in so few words. Brava! Well, at least he doesn't accept the leash! |
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When there's a will, there's a bicycle
Pat wrote: Glad to see a post in this group. It's been dead lately. But please don't try to impose your view on others and tell us what we need when you have no idea. You and I live in a different world. I see. Why don't YOU come up with a bicycle store? One last example for you to think about. What if you went hunting and got a deer. How would you bring it back to your house on a bike? 10 miles on dirt roads pulling a deer on your recumbant? It's be fun to see. How about asking the indians around how they managed in the good-ol'-fashoned way? It would be fun too. Oh, did I mention snow storms. I can't imaging a bike on 6" of unplowed snow on a packed snow base when it's -20F and windy. Those car heaters sure come in handy then. OK, just use it in the mild seasons. When there's a will, there's a bicycle, you know. |
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