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Old October 12th 10, 07:29 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_10_]
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead? Nowhere is safe from these motorists, they
kill, injure and smash houses and shops with relative impunity. The
justice system is skewed in their favour, probably because virtually
everyone connected with the so-called justice system is a motorist.

Mo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11519621

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Old October 12th 10, 08:42 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
The Medway Handyman[_3_]
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

Doug wrote:
Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time.


So the post is once again OT.


A driving licence is a licence to kill.


I take that as personal abuse.


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Old October 12th 10, 08:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

On 12/10/2010 07:29, Doug wrote:
Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead?...


He wouldn't have faced the dangerous driving charge, but the sentence
would likely have been the same.

He pleaded guilty to assualt, for which the sentencing guidelines are
that a custodial sentence is appropriate only if two or more aggrevating
factors are present. In this case, intent and injury are present. The
use of a weapon is also an aggrevating factor, but two are sufficient
for a custodial sentence. The maximum recommended sentence is two years,
but he would get a reduction for pleading guilty, so 15 months is a
fairly stiff sentence under the guideines.

Colin Bignell
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Old October 12th 10, 09:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Partac[_2_]
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.


"Doug" wrote in message
...

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead?


Perhaps the police didn't have the resources or time to put together a
stronger case of, say, attempted murder?

They might have had to spend the time dealing with eejits who were stoning
their cars, perhaps, or even dealing with Rsoles who were trying to behead
them with fishing line.





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Old October 12th 10, 11:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
francis
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

On Oct 12, 7:29*am, Doug wrote:
Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead? Nowhere is safe from these motorists, they
kill, injure and smash houses and shops with relative impunity. The
justice system is skewed in their favour, probably because virtually
everyone connected with the so-called justice system is a motorist.

Mo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11519621

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Who makes the 'relative impunity.' it's a make of car I am not familer
with?
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Old October 12th 10, 03:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_10_]
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

On 12 Oct, 08:56, "Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insertmysurnamehere wrote:
On 12/10/2010 07:29, Doug wrote:



Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?


"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.


James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.


Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.


Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."


WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead?...


He wouldn't have faced the dangerous driving charge, but the sentence
would likely have been the same.

He pleaded guilty to assualt, for which the sentencing guidelines are
that a custodial sentence is appropriate only if two or more aggrevating
factors are present. In this case, intent and injury are present. The
use of a weapon is also an aggrevating factor, but two are sufficient
for a custodial sentence. The maximum recommended sentence is two years,
but he would get a reduction for pleading guilty, so 15 months is a
fairly stiff sentence under the guideines.

Trust you to defend the motorist and his use of a weapon. Its always
the same isn't it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_Kingdom

"Strictly speaking, assault is not an essential ingredient of these
offences. The test is whether the wound, or harm, resulted from the
act of the accused: see Archbold's Criminal Pleading 2009 at 19-208.
Grievous bodily harms means no more and no less than really serious
bodily harm: DPP v. Smith [1961] AC 290. A wound requires the
continuity of the whole skin to be broken: R. v. Wood [1830] I Mood.
278.

An offence under section 20 carries a maximum penalty of 5 years'
imprisonment, a fine, or both. An offence under section 20 carries a
maximum penalty of life imprisonment."

So the max for assault can be either 5 years or life, not two years
and he got a paltry 15 months because he used a car as weapon instead
of a knife

Are you seriously trying to suggest he would not have got more if he
had deliberately attacked the bloke with a knife?

Example...

http://www.4ni.co.uk/northern_irelan....asp?id=106344

"Six Year Sentence For Stabbing

A man has been jailed after he stabbed a Gorton man, narrowly missing
his heart.

Paul Johnstone, 28, of no fixed abode pleaded guilty to wounding with
intent at Manchester Crown Court, Crown Square.

He was sentenced to six years in jail earlier this week."

Doug

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Old October 12th 10, 03:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Adrian
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

...pleaded guilty to wounding with intent


Not assault, then.
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Old October 12th 10, 03:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.


"Doug" wrote in message
...
Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead? Nowhere is safe from these motorists, they
kill, injure and smash houses and shops with relative impunity. The
justice system is skewed in their favour, probably because virtually
everyone connected with the so-called justice system is a motorist.

Mo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11519621

-- .
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http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


I would not advise bad mouthing anyone with that surname, the family run
various debt collection and similar services in my part of the world, they
are known to arrange violent consequences for failure to pay. Hard men,
with a name to uphold, so don't be rude.


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Old October 12th 10, 03:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_10_]
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Default Another pavement attack on a person using a car as a weapon.

On 12 Oct, 15:08, Adrian wrote:
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

...pleaded guilty to wounding with intent


Not assault, then.

You are wrong yet again, Adrain. They are virtually synonymous in law.

http://www.wikicrimeline.co.uk/index...rm_with_Intent

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Old October 12th 10, 04:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...

"Doug" wrote in message
...
Good job it wasn't a cyclist victim this time. Doesn't this clearly
demonstrate though how lightly the deliberate use of a car as a weapon
is punished?

"A 23-year-old man has been jailed after he mowed down a man in his
car, leaving him seriously hurt.

James Blundell, of Urmston, deliberately hit the man at speed outside
the Tim Bobbin Pub near his home in Flixton Road in September 2009.

Minshull Street Crown Court heard his victim was left needing
extensive surgery for a split bowel and has lost his job, home and
car.

Blundell was jailed for 15 months. He admitted assault and dangerous
driving..."

WHHAAAT! Only 15 months? Supposing he had been deliberately using a
knife as a weapon instead? Nowhere is safe from these motorists, they
kill, injure and smash houses and shops with relative impunity. The
justice system is skewed in their favour, probably because virtually
everyone connected with the so-called justice system is a motorist.

Mo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11519621

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


I would not advise bad mouthing anyone with that surname, the family run
various debt collection and similar services in my part of the world, they
are known to arrange violent consequences for failure to pay. Hard men,
with a name to uphold, so don't be rude.

Ignore "Mrcheerful", Doug. You carry one being as rude as you like about
such people. You could even invite them to visit so that you can tell them
face to face.


 




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