cleaning tools

writes:

hard man.

the BP story on the Christian caught by a boulder before a water pool ...

there's an SOG 2 strips dpwn

https://everydaycarry.com/articles/multi-tools

the gerber has no can opener. yagotta have a can opener.

A p-38 is a small and capable can-opener, albeit special purpose. Much
better than anything you're likely to find on a multi-tool.

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On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 11:26:17 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
David Scheidt writes:

John B. wrote:
:On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 21:31:12 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

:John B. wrote:
::On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg
::wrote:
:
::John B. writes:
::
:: I had a similar discussion about those silly
:: "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for
:: multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing.
::
::The appeal is not what they do but what they could do.
::They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and
::talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which
::perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I
::hope) claims they are for everyday work!
:
::I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in
::a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would
::always get me to fix it :-)
:
:Well, he had the sense to use the right tool, then. I have one, and
:have carried a series of them for over 20 years. It's the wrong tool
:for almost every job, but its the tool you have, which makes it the
:best tool.

:I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold, and
:rapidly discovered that they weren't very efficient for any task. I
:reverted to a small tool kit of single use tools that worked far
:better. As for "the tool you have" what does that mean? If you have a

It's in my pocket. Always.

:mechanical device you can include a tool kit.

Sure. For my mechanical devices. Doesn't do any good when I'm not in
one of my mechanical devices, or hiking, or at the park, or in
someone's kitchen.

Aron Ralston was glad to have had a cheap knock-off leatherman on him
when his arm got stuck under a rock in Utah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

As I recall he did have to bash the bones with a rock.

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Maybe if that moron who got stuck in the nutty putty cave had had one, he coulda scooped his way out

The story gave me the willies just to read; I could not sit still

Doug Landau writes:

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 11:26:17 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
David Scheidt writes:

John B. wrote:
:On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 21:31:12 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

:John B. wrote:
::On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg
::wrote:
:
::John B. writes:
::
:: I had a similar discussion about those silly
:: "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for
:: multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing.
::
::The appeal is not what they do but what they could do.
::They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and
::talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which
::perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I
::hope) claims they are for everyday work!
:
::I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in
::a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would
::always get me to fix it :-)
:
:Well, he had the sense to use the right tool, then. I have one, and
:have carried a series of them for over 20 years. It's the wrong tool
:for almost every job, but its the tool you have, which makes it the
:best tool.

:I bought a leatherman, way back when they first were being sold, and
:rapidly discovered that they weren't very efficient for any task. I
:reverted to a small tool kit of single use tools that worked far
:better. As for "the tool you have" what does that mean? If you have a

It's in my pocket. Always.

:mechanical device you can include a tool kit.

Sure. For my mechanical devices. Doesn't do any good when I'm not in
one of my mechanical devices, or hiking, or at the park, or in
someone's kitchen.

Aron Ralston was glad to have had a cheap knock-off leatherman on him
when his arm got stuck under a rock in Utah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

As I recall he did have to bash the bones with a rock.

--

Maybe if that moron who got stuck in the nutty putty cave had had one,
he coulda scooped his way out

The story gave me the willies just to read; I could not sit still

I had not heard of that one -- it's a real treat for the claustrophobics
among us.

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John B. wrote:


:Actually manual lawn mowers didn't have many weak points. The usual

What do you mean 'didn't'? I have one. Bought new, last year. It
does have one substantial week point, it can't mow as close to
things(like walls) as a gas mower can. I have large areas (well,
strips) that have to be done with a string trimmer).

:complaint was that the blade(s) got dull and there were shops that had
:the rather specialized tool to sharpen them.

When did a file become specialized?




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David Scheidt wrote:

complaint was that the blade(s) got dull and
there were shops that had the rather
specialized tool to sharpen them.

When did a file become specialized?

The one I did doesn't even require that. It had
a sharpener built in with screws to adjust it
onto the blades. Then you just rolled it as you
normally would and when the blades didn't touch
the sharpener anymore, they were sharp.

--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 10:54:20 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

writes:

hard man.

the BP story on the Christian caught by a boulder before a water pool ...

there's an SOG 2 strips dpwn

https://everydaycarry.com/articles/multi-tools

the gerber has no can opener. yagotta have a can opener.

A p-38 is a small and capable can-opener, albeit special purpose. Much
better than anything you're likely to find on a multi-tool.

And as you carry it on your dog tag chain it is always with you :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:08:22 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 14:49:39 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

John B. wrote:

I bought a leatherman, way back when they first
were being sold

By the way, what is the deal with "Leatherman"?
Is it really the original design? I heard of
them just recently, maybe two years ago, in the
posh mountaineering world, but my SOG and
a couple of other such tools
(i.e., combination plier + Swiss-army-knife
style foldable stuff) I've had for ages.

The company's name is Leatherman, started by a fellow named Tim
Leatherman who pioneered the idea of a multi-tool in the U.S.
The company was founded in 1983 and sold something like 30,000 tools
in 1984.
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Cheers,

John B.

How much did 'e get from each 1 ?

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

John B. wrote:


:Actually manual lawn mowers didn't have many weak points. The usual

What do you mean 'didn't'? I have one. Bought new, last year. It
does have one substantial week point, it can't mow as close to
things(like walls) as a gas mower can. I have large areas (well,
strips) that have to be done with a string trimmer).

Well, I don't know about "New Ones". The only ones I have experience
with were "back in the day" when I was in grade/high school. In fact a
school mate who was infatuated with automobiles bought his first car
when he turned 16 (and could get a license) with money he had earned
mowing lawns with a hand mower (there weren't any other kind)for the
previous several years.

:complaint was that the blade(s) got dull and there were shops that had
:the rather specialized tool to sharpen them.

When did a file become specialized?

The problem was that as the blades were on a spiral reel and cut by
moving very closely past a fixed plate both angle of the cutting edge
of the blades and the diameter of the reel and the fact that it formed
a true cylinder was critical to how well the mower cut. Hand filling
without some sort of fixture wouldn't accomplish this. Thus the "mower
sharpening shop".
--
Cheers,

John B.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...90.mobile.html

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 7:35:02 AM UTC-4, wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...90.mobile.html

NYC tool choice

http://thesweethome.com/reviews/the-best-screwdriver/