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Seat post pannier racks--ok to use?
I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike,
which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). -- Kovie zen\ |
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Seat post pannier racks--ok to use?
Kovie wrote:
I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike, which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? I've seen others using the seatpost racks with more than a few pounds in them. Aluminum seatposts. I really don't have to worry about the seatpost. I've seen 250 pound plus people using lightweight seatposts. And the load was not always in compression when they moved around on the saddle. Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) With my aluminum Nashbar frame, I used 4 P clips to attach a cheap rack to it. Nashbar sells the P clips ($3 pair) if the rack does not come with enough. My cheap ($14)Ascent rack from Nashbar came with 2 P clips. I had 2 Blackburn P clips already. Didn't take too much effort to put it on. 2 P clips at the bottom of the seatstays. 2 P clips above the brake near the top of the seatstays. I used it on some 300 kilometer brevets with 10-15 pounds in it. It was attached very solidly. I used electrical tape under the P clips to help protect the paint. The P clips are covered in plastic. I didn't really care too much about the paint on my nashbar frame. Titanium would be impervious. I would not put heavily loaded panniers on the rack. I would not use the P clip attached rack for a cross country tour. But for carrying the bare essentials on a week long tour, I would use it. And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? Put the rack legs as low as possible on the seatstays near the dropouts. Then the top gets mounted on the seatstays wherever it ends up. And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). -- Kovie zen\ |
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Kovie wrote:
I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike, which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). OK, I'll cancel my "Well I hope you and Train Wreck will be happy together!" comment. :-P |
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Kovie:
I had a seatpost rack for a little while. They're FINE for carriage bags that ride on top. I wouldn't put too bulky a load on the sides simply because there isn't any side-to-side stabilizing as you get with a rack that's anchored to chainstays. BTW: you can get racks that use the rear axle for bikes that don't have eyelets. Try Old Man Mountain. If you're going that route. I'd be more worried about the rack breaking than the seat post. "Kovie" wrote in message link.net... I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike, which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). -- Kovie zen\ |
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I have a mtb that doesn't have eyelets on it and I bought these things
at the local home depot, I don't have a good picture of them, but they are a two part clamp that is supposed to be used to connect a groundwire to a pipe. They are made out of AL so no rust. They split right down the center and just get clamped right to the frame, and then a standard rack gets bolted right to the clamps. Works great. Ken |
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"P-clamps" - and yes, those work very well! I hadn't thought to suggest
looking for them at Home Depot but that's a great idea. If someone's concerned about scratching the frame, a bit of shrink tubing around them would work well. My latest rack came with a set of P-clamps but I already had bolt holes for more conventional attachment. "Ken M" wrote in message oups.com... I have a mtb that doesn't have eyelets on it and I bought these things at the local home depot, I don't have a good picture of them, but they are a two part clamp that is supposed to be used to connect a groundwire to a pipe. They are made out of AL so no rust. They split right down the center and just get clamped right to the frame, and then a standard rack gets bolted right to the clamps. Works great. Ken |
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http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...309&lpage=none
This is what the man was referring to. Not "P-clamps". There are other designs so this is probably not the exact one. Look in the plumbing and electrical section of your hardware store. They are used to attach the ground wire from the electrical box to the copper water pipe in the house. C.J.Patten wrote: "P-clamps" - and yes, those work very well! I hadn't thought to suggest looking for them at Home Depot but that's a great idea. If someone's concerned about scratching the frame, a bit of shrink tubing around them would work well. My latest rack came with a set of P-clamps but I already had bolt holes for more conventional attachment. "Ken M" wrote in message oups.com... I have a mtb that doesn't have eyelets on it and I bought these things at the local home depot, I don't have a good picture of them, but they are a two part clamp that is supposed to be used to connect a groundwire to a pipe. They are made out of AL so no rust. They split right down the center and just get clamped right to the frame, and then a standard rack gets bolted right to the clamps. Works great. Ken |
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ups.com... http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...309&lpage=none This is what the man was referring to. Not "P-clamps". There are other designs so this is probably not the exact one. Look in the plumbing and electrical section of your hardware store. They are used to attach the ground wire from the electrical box to the copper water pipe in the house. C.J.Patten wrote: "P-clamps" - and yes, those work very well! I hadn't thought to suggest looking for them at Home Depot but that's a great idea. If someone's concerned about scratching the frame, a bit of shrink tubing around them would work well. My latest rack came with a set of P-clamps but I already had bolt holes for more conventional attachment. "Ken M" wrote in message oups.com... I have a mtb that doesn't have eyelets on it and I bought these things at the local home depot, I don't have a good picture of them, but they are a two part clamp that is supposed to be used to connect a groundwire to a pipe. They are made out of AL so no rust. They split right down the center and just get clamped right to the frame, and then a standard rack gets bolted right to the clamps. Works great. Ken Thanks. I've always liked "out of the box" solutions to fairly simple problems. Who would have thought of the Home Depot as a bike shop! ;-) -- Kovie zen |
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"Bill Sornson" wrote in message
... Kovie wrote: I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike, which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). OK, I'll cancel my "Well I hope you and Train Wreck will be happy together!" comment. :-P I have no idea who or what you're referring to! ;-) -- Kovie zen |
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oups.com... Kovie wrote: I just ordered a Performance seat post pannier rack for my Ti road bike, which doesn't have rack eyelets. It was on sale for $19 and seemed like a good deal. It's rated up to 25lbs. However, I was wondering, are these things reliable, and do I risk damaging my seat post (and possibly myself if it cracks while out riding) by putting anywhere near 25lbs on it? My current seat post is an American Classic aluminum alloy, not carbon. But it clearly was designed to carry a mostly compression load, not a shearing load. Am I taking a chance putting this rack on it? I've seen others using the seatpost racks with more than a few pounds in them. Aluminum seatposts. I really don't have to worry about the seatpost. I've seen 250 pound plus people using lightweight seatposts. And the load was not always in compression when they moved around on the saddle. Here's the link to the rack: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?sku=19330 If I'm best off not using this rack, what's the best way to use a standard rack (which I already have) on a bike w/o eyelets? C-clamps? (Or is it D-clamps?) With my aluminum Nashbar frame, I used 4 P clips to attach a cheap rack to it. Nashbar sells the P clips ($3 pair) if the rack does not come with enough. My cheap ($14)Ascent rack from Nashbar came with 2 P clips. I had 2 Blackburn P clips already. Didn't take too much effort to put it on. 2 P clips at the bottom of the seatstays. 2 P clips above the brake near the top of the seatstays. I used it on some 300 kilometer brevets with 10-15 pounds in it. It was attached very solidly. I used electrical tape under the P clips to help protect the paint. The P clips are covered in plastic. I didn't really care too much about the paint on my nashbar frame. Titanium would be impervious. I would not put heavily loaded panniers on the rack. I would not use the P clip attached rack for a cross country tour. But for carrying the bare essentials on a week long tour, I would use it. And if it's ok to use, I assume that the lower I mount it, the safer? Put the rack legs as low as possible on the seatstays near the dropouts. Then the top gets mounted on the seatstays wherever it ends up. And incidentally, this would be for light overnight or weekend touring, not for day rides (in case anyone who followed my recent thread about hydration packs thinks I've decided to forget about packs and go to a rack solution for day rides, which isn't the case--I still intend to use packs for day ride use, where appropriate). -- Kovie zen\ Thanks. It's been over 20 years since I've toured so I can't remember how heavy loaded panniers can get. I assume that for a weekend tour 25lbs should be more than enough, even for camping. And obviously, if I wanted to do a xc tour, I'd do best to get a touring bike. -- Kovie zen |
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