Derisory fine for cyclist with faulty brakes and in a no cycling zone

" CYCLIST who left a young girl with serious injuries after crashing into
her with his bike has been ordered to pay £250 in compensation.
Matthew Griffin, 24, sent the girl flying several feet into the air when he
ploughed into her at speed in The Parade in front of her mother"

I wonder whether a car driver in the same situation would have received such
a minute punishment?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...l_feet_in_air/

"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
...
"Mrcheerful" considered Sat, 24 Sep 2011
10:31:30 +0100 the perfect time to write:

" CYCLIST who left a young girl with serious injuries after crashing into
her with his bike has been ordered to pay £250 in compensation.
Matthew Griffin, 24, sent the girl flying several feet into the air when
he
ploughed into her at speed in The Parade in front of her mother"

The court heard the girl had marks on her side which looked like they
had been caused by the bicycle spokes and she was bleeding.

That doesn't seem like "serious injuries". More like the sort of
thing that kids do to themselves frequently just playing.

I wonder whether a car driver in the same situation would have received
such
a minute punishment?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...l_feet_in_air/

It seems to generally be much lower, (one or two hundred including
costs, victim surcharge and compo orders) even when there is failure
to stop after an accident, although points are (usually) added to the
licence.
The occasional high-profile case (like Harriet Harperson) gets a
little more, although still less in total (435 vs 530).

It's a matter of combing court records or "today in court" or "in the
dock" columns of local papers to find typical levels, as it's so
common it isn't newsworthy.

To get an accurate comparison you have to look for cases where the
driver stopped at the scene, expressed remorse, offered help to the
victim, never denied anything, and assisted the police and courts
throughout.

Of course, it's far more common that the last you hear of such a case
is "police are appealing for help tracing a nondescript banger".
If they even bother to do that.


so you think a car driver with faulty brakes in a pedestrian only zone that
ran over a child while travelling at speed would not receive a heftier
sentence?

On Sep 24, 4:53*pm, Phil W Lee wrote:

It's a matter of combing court records or "today in court" or "in the
dock" columns of local papers to find typical levels, as it's so
common it isn't newsworthy.


Indeed.
Stories like that are ten a penny.

--
Simon Mason

Mrcheerful wrote:

" CYCLIST who left a young girl with serious injuries after crashing
into her with his bike has been ordered to pay £250 in compensation.
Matthew Griffin, 24, sent the girl flying several feet into the air
when he ploughed into her at speed in The Parade in front of her
mother"

I wonder whether a car driver in the same situation would have
received such a minute punishment?


http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...l_feet_in_air/

I believe you've previously asserted that cyclists can't be traced and
always ride away when they have an accident.

I suggest the following quote from your source belies that assertion ..

"Robyn Chambers, defending, said: “He was very shocked. He was very
worried about the child, but the child’s mother was obviously
incredibly upset and was gesturing at him. And as a result he thought
it was best under the circumstances to move away because he felt he was
making the situation worse by remaining there.”

"However, she said, after leaving his bicycle at home, he came straight
back to check on the child’s condition and offer his help. She said he
co-operated with police, entered early guilty pleas, and was willing to
pay compensation."



--
Paul - xxx

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
On Sep 24, 4:53 pm, Phil W Lee wrote:

It's a matter of combing court records or "today in court" or "in the
dock" columns of local papers to find typical levels, as it's so
common it isn't newsworthy.


Indeed.
Stories like that are ten a penny.

--
Simon Mason

So are cyclists.

On Sep 24, 9:07*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

...
On Sep 24, 4:53 pm, Phil W Lee wrote:



It's a matter of combing court records or "today in court" or "in the
dock" columns of local papers to find typical levels, as it's so
common it isn't newsworthy.

Indeed.
Stories like that are ten a penny.

--

So are cyclists.

Not according to Cheerless they're not - he did a survey the other day
and didn't see a single one.

--
Simon Mason

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
...
Mrcheerful wrote:

" CYCLIST who left a young girl with serious injuries after crashing
into her with his bike has been ordered to pay £250 in compensation.
Matthew Griffin, 24, sent the girl flying several feet into the air
when he ploughed into her at speed in The Parade in front of her
mother"

I wonder whether a car driver in the same situation would have
received such a minute punishment?


http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...l_feet_in_air/

I believe you've previously asserted that cyclists can't be traced and
always ride away when they have an accident.

I suggest the following quote from your source belies that assertion ..

"Robyn Chambers, defending, said: "He was very shocked. He was very
worried about the child, but the child's mother was obviously
incredibly upset and was gesturing at him. And as a result he thought
it was best under the circumstances to move away because he felt he was
making the situation worse by remaining there."

"However, she said, after leaving his bicycle at home, he came straight
back to check on the child's condition and offer his help. She said he
co-operated with police, entered early guilty pleas, and was willing to
pay compensation."



--
Paul - xxx

GOSH!
He ran away, went home, had a brew, "thought" about what he had done. Two
nerve ends collided and he returned to the scene of the crime.

On Sep 24, 9:17*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

"However, she said, after leaving his bicycle at home, he came straight
back to check on the child's condition and offer his help. She said he
co-operated with police, entered early guilty pleas, and was willing to
pay compensation."

--
Paul - xxx

GOSH!
He ran away, went home, had a brew, "thought" about what he had done. Two
nerve ends collided and he returned to the scene of the crime.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, if only *everyone* did that there would be no such term as "hit
and run driver", would there?

--
Simon Mason

Mr Pounder wrote:


"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
...
Mrcheerful wrote:

" CYCLIST who left a young girl with serious injuries after
crashing into her with his bike has been ordered to pay £250 in
compensation. Matthew Griffin, 24, sent the girl flying several
feet into the air when he ploughed into her at speed in The
Parade in front of her mother"

I wonder whether a car driver in the same situation would have
received such a minute punishment?



http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...l_feet_in_air/

I believe you've previously asserted that cyclists can't be traced
and always ride away when they have an accident.

I suggest the following quote from your source belies that
assertion ..

"Robyn Chambers, defending, said: "He was very shocked. He was very
worried about the child, but the child's mother was obviously
incredibly upset and was gesturing at him. And as a result he
thought it was best under the circumstances to move away because he
felt he was making the situation worse by remaining there."

"However, she said, after leaving his bicycle at home, he came
straight back to check on the child's condition and offer his help.
She said he co-operated with police, entered early guilty pleas,
and was willing to pay compensation."



-- Paul - xxx

GOSH!
He ran away, went home, had a brew, "thought" about what he had done.
Two nerve ends collided and he returned to the scene of the crime.

At least he did return, which in the context of what I was saying is
good.

--
Paul - xxx

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:17*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

"However, she said, after leaving his bicycle at home, he came straight
back to check on the child's condition and offer his help. She said he
co-operated with police, entered early guilty pleas, and was willing to
pay compensation."

--
Paul - xxx

GOSH!
He ran away, went home, had a brew, "thought" about what he had done. Two
nerve ends collided and he returned to the scene of the crime.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, if only *everyone* did that there would be no such term as "hit
and run driver", would there?


Which bit of "He ran away" did you not understand?

--
Simple Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.