Blame the faulty drivers of dangerous machinery. 4WDs most dangerouson road

"fasgnadh" wrote in message
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Rainbow Warrior wrote:

"fasgnadh" wrote in message
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Brash wrote:

"Brash" wrote in message
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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for
upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.

How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse

Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical
but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home
on
Saturday.

Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The
machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.

A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.

Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.

Don't pay any attention to stupid little faggy arse.

With his absurd claim that only 10% of pedestrians survive
cars, who would believe him. (But I don't think his role
as butt-boy for the car companies is a nice way for you
to criticise him ;-)

He wouldn't know a real fourbie from his mother's arsehole.

So math's is not his only disability?

Little faggy arse has the ****s with anybody
who has anything more than he does,

So he is one of those people who thinks his 4WD is
a status symbol which makes others jealous? What
a sad little tosser he, and you, must be.

Yeah I regularly reckon other people are jealos of my 15 year old dented
scratched faded white pov pack 4WD ute , it's a super status symbol.

And quite incapable of rationally debating the figures,
which show how dangerous he and his machinery are.

Dangerous is the point, I say over 80kw and wide mags are dangerous too.

"dave" wrote in message
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Rainbow Warrior wrote:
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On 2005-10-24, Kev (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Of the last 4 vehicles I have come into contact with, 3 were 4WDs (the
other was a stolen vehicle, where the drivers deliberately rammed me,
and one of the 4WDs was being controlled by a road rager who
fortunately chose to get out of his ego-cage in order to assault me).

what is wrong with your riding skills that you keep coming into contact
with cars?

Reaction times greater than 200msec. Damn it, I'm only human.

In the two road rage cases, it was me yelling out "hey!" to cars that
tried to merge into the lane that I had already occupied. "hey!" of
course being the most to-the-point thing that one can quickly say --
as far more effective than merely ringing my bell. The 4WDer
obviously felt like his penis was threatened by this, so got out of
his car and started pushing me around.... 50m from a booze bus with
flashing lights. Idiot. The other was a bunch of teenagers in a
stolen car taking it for a joy ride, so they got their thrills out of
being dangerous fools on the road. Hope they've met a tree now.


Then the idiot woman the other day obviously though I threatened her
tits.


In one other case, a 4WDer was pulling out of a carpark, and was too
busy concentrating on doing an illegal U-turn to bother looking in my
direction. When she hit me, I managed to stay upright and avoided the
tram tracks and traffic in the opposite direction, and nearly fell
over when I came to clip out, and found I could barely move my leg.
She said "oh sorry, I usually am a very good driver -- I look out for
cyclists, but just forgot to look this time!". Oh well, at least it
wasn't the SMIDSY -- "Sorry Mate, I Didn't See You" -- I have to admit
I've never heard someone say "I didn't bother looking for you". And
she even took me to the doctor then the police station.


You'd prefer FYWYCF (f&ck you, where'd you come from?)


And the case 2 weeks ago was an idiot in a 4WD who didn't indicate,
barely slowed down, or look when he pulled into a parking spot. I was
possible not riding as defensively as I could (I should have taken the
middle of the right hand lane in order not to allow vehicles to pass
me when there wasn't enough room) -- although the traffic was
travelling rather slow at the time, and I thought it was safe. He
broke at least 2, possibly three laws (I'm talking to a lawyer
tomorrow), and I broke 0 laws. Unfortunately, he has left me a 2 day
visit to a hospital, $500 out of pocket, and with a much reduced
capacity to eat for the past almost 2 weeks (lay ruin to my plan of
doing the 210km around-the-bay, because I couldn't fuel myself). and I
didn't even get a single scratch on his fricking precious Urban Asault
Vehicle.


There is no place for 4WDs in city roads.


Obviously no place for accident prone cyclists either.

My only near misses riding in Sydney were with cars, taxi's usually,
never hit me though.


Every single one of mine
was a clean, never used in the bush vehicle. 2 of them were sole
occupant, and the other had two occupants. The one that got me last
time had a taller bonnet than my handlebars, which means he sure as
hell isn't going to see a lot of obstacles, and any human he does hit
will be hit in the torso, and will not have a chance of going safely
over the bonnet. Combine that with the fact that the vehicles are not
constructed to the same safety standards as required by law of normal
passenger vehicles, and that they are actively aggressive to non 4WD
users, and you have a vehicle that is extremely harmful to society.
But since it is so loved amongst Toorak style voters, of whom our
Johnny Howard love, I doubt they will be taxed comparably to normal
vehicles anytime soon.

You never consider us non Toorak, real offroaders exist do you, if it's
under 2 year old it doesn't exist to you Toorak cyclists.

Hmmmmm Does Glen Iris count? Does my 40 year old car count?

WTF is Glen Iris? Nah cause it's incapable of hitting cylists at that age.

"Spear and Magic Helmet" wrote in message
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fasgnadh wrote:
How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

All you sheeple who eat up whatever the latest sensationalist media
beat up is really amuse me. Or it would if it wasn't such a depressing
reminder of how stupid humans are when they go into mob mentality.

But keep listening to your shock jocks with their baseless figures in
order to get you all foaming at the mouth and into your
pigeon-hole-hating states of mind.

What's on the menu next? Anyone know?

Banning V8's, turbo's low visibility colours & mag wheels.

fasgnadh wrote:

According to my newsreader, this is the moron who cross posted this and
trolled quite a fewe a.b'ers.

Only reason I responded was that this (running over grand daughter in
this case) happened to an old cycling mate of mine quite a few decades
ago. Just a standard station wagon. So I decided when I acquired my
first motor vehicles that it was far, far wiser to reverse my motor
vehicle into my driveway as I had a clear view of driveway, footpath and
road way when I arrived home. Reversing out to me seemed like playing
russian roulette.

Of course, I still always proceed in a forward direction when riding my
bicycle {:-).

"Resound" wrote in message
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Oh look, we've roused them

Yes, that story certainly did.

All it takes is for the press to mentiom "4wd" and the left wing loonies
come straight out of the woodwork

We're talking about toddler height objects. Try driving away from a white
post in your lard arse Landcruiser until you can see the whole reflector
at
the top. Then stop and see how far from it you are.Everything between it
and
the back of your vehicle is where you can't see a child.

I don't have a Landcruiser.

I have a Cherokee, and it's rearward visibility is better than any sedan
I've owned in the last 20 years. Some 4wd's are terrible in this regard, as
are some sedans (current model Commodore anyone?)

That said, it's all a bit moot when it's the *driver* who is 100%
responsible in these circumstances, and the vehicle type is completely
irrelevant.

And I think the word you're desperately groping for is "reactionary".

That'd be the one. Thanks muchly......

Why yes, I actually DO react to things. You know...by thinking about them
for example

Oh, really?

So a broad general bull**** comment like the 15 metre rear view restriction
in a "4wd" is an example of your thought process?

Jesus...

Who wants to take bets on an incoherent response or none at all?

Judging by your initial post, I'm not overly confident

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Regards,
Noddy.

"Michael C" wrote in message
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He attracted noddy :-) Sorry noddy couldn't resist.

**** you Michael, you're off my Christmas card list

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Regards,
Noddy.

Noddy Wrote:

So a broad general bull**** comment like the 15 metre rear view
restriction
in a "4wd" is an example of your thought process?

Jesus...

Who wants to take bets on an incoherent response or none at all?

Judging by your initial post, I'm not overly confident

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Regards,
Noddy.

No, very graphic demo in real cars done on National TV, Noddy.
Placed camera in car looking back over shoulder of seat. BTW your
cherokee measured 12m. The commodore was one of the worst which
surprised me but I have never been in one.
The equal worst was 'white delivery van' cant remember model, but
typical courier vehicle without the 'bubble window'. and the
Landcruiser.
But that's OK cos someone's penis was made bigger by driving it



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flyingdutch

fasgnadh wrote:

A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

According to the ABC last night, 3 metres for the Charade, large 4WD 20
metres, Commodore 17 metres.

Theo

Knobdoodle wrote:
"Rainbow Warrior" wrote :
Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be
banned.
Far-canal; who's running over the other 10%?
Trucks and busses? (Surely motorcycles aren't making a tangible
contribution!)

Cyclists on footpaths probably.

Hi Clem, getting a pushy?

Theo

"Noddy" wrote in message
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He attracted noddy :-) Sorry noddy couldn't resist.

**** you Michael, you're off my Christmas card list

I feel privledged that I was at least on it at one stage :-)

Michael