Bye Bye!

gotbent wrote:

How about one of the spring classics? Rain, mud and cobbles. How about a
cyclocross?

In terms of absolute speed these will typically be much slower on /any/
bike than good tarmac or a velodrome.

But overall the Hans' and Robs are few and far
between. If the world of fast pro and semi-pro racers were a SI swimsuit
model, bent racers might barely amount to a pimple on her ass.

Though racing is about racing, not necessarily speed. And if you want
to race you'll want opponents and a busy racing calendar and structured
rules and a local chain gang to go out with for practice, and you get
that on the established DF bikes and you don't get that on HPVs. How
fast they go (or not) is incidental.
Battle Mountain is probably less fun to watch than a hotly contested
stage of Le Tour, but the *speeds* are much, much higher.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Peter Clinch wrote:

Battle Mountain is probably less fun to watch than a hotly contested
stage of Le Tour, but the *speeds* are much, much higher.

Pete.
True. It seems to be basically competition. Racing, records, even
shaving time used to go to the mailbox. Maybe the fastest bent sells
easier, or more, or higher priced. But the bent Mochet rode in the
1930s got recumbents left out from future competition to this day in
many races (around here).

Then that rear steer trike at Bonneville Salt Flats goes about 400+.
Interesting feat, but who in their right mind wants to go 400 or deal
with a motor or have a crew handy to solidly tape the door closed to
keep slick aerodynamics?

I would rather stop on a dime, give you nine cents change (thanks Bill
Cosby), look both ways, and pull out smoothly from the stop sign when
it is safe.

wrote:

True. It seems to be basically competition. Racing, records, even
shaving time used to go to the mailbox. Maybe the fastest bent sells
easier, or more, or higher priced. But the bent Mochet rode in the
1930s got recumbents left out from future competition to this day in
many races (around here).

Note that Mochet designed and built the Velocar, he didn't ride it in
competition

I would rather stop on a dime, give you nine cents change (thanks Bill
Cosby), look both ways, and pull out smoothly from the stop sign when
it is safe.

Why does it have to be one or the other? ;-)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

On 15 Feb 2007 07:06:28 -0800, wrote:

Then that rear steer trike at Bonneville Salt Flats goes about 400+.
Interesting feat, but who in their right mind wants to go 400 or deal
with a motor or have a crew handy to solidly tape the door closed to
keep slick aerodynamics?

You seem to be more fixated on this than the people that you are
talking about. What's the problem? More directly, what's the point?
Moral superiority?

Among the most pointless threads I can think of are the 'Why do
diamond frame riders ride their diamond frames?' (never mind that you
still pretty much get more bang for the buck buying a diamond frame,
and if they are comfortable for you, why NOT ride them?) and the 'Why
do people ride their bikes for different reasons than I do?'.

What's next? All the commuters discuss how stupid it is to do
cyclotourism? Especially on diamond frames...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
Any two wheels...

"Curtis L. Russell" wrote in message
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On 15 Feb 2007 07:06:28 -0800, wrote:

Then that rear steer trike at Bonneville Salt Flats goes about 400+.
Interesting feat, but who in their right mind wants to go 400 or deal
with a motor or have a crew handy to solidly tape the door closed to
keep slick aerodynamics?

You seem to be more fixated on this than the people that you are
talking about. What's the problem? More directly, what's the point?
Moral superiority?

Among the most pointless threads I can think of are the 'Why do
diamond frame riders ride their diamond frames?' (never mind that you
still pretty much get more bang for the buck buying a diamond frame,
and if they are comfortable for you, why NOT ride them?) and the 'Why
do people ride their bikes for different reasons than I do?'.

What's next? All the commuters discuss how stupid it is to do
cyclotourism? Especially on diamond frames...

Well, you wanted on-topic messages and so this is what you get. Just one
freaking idiot after another blathering away about nothing at all.

Eco is an idiot of course and he will soon wear out what little welcome he
is getting here on this newsgroup. ARBR requires intelligent messages which
can be either on-topic or off-topic. The one thing it cannot abide are
idiots like Eco. He and his responders are ever into trivia, the more
trivial the better.

The Great Ed Dolan was never into any kind of trivia. He had too much pride
for that.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Why fast? For some of us riding a bike is more about transportation
from point A to point B than it is about the bicycling experience.
From that perspective, time spent at point B is more valued than time
spent on the bike; therefore, faster is better. Why 60 mph? Well,
that does seem like it might be pushing the limits of safety, and
increasing the likelihood of arriving at the pine wood box at the head
of the line....but, pushing that limit might also be the groundwork
for lightweight, low energy, low cost, powered vehicles (and I want
one of those).
-BothellBob