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Ultegra - 105 - Tiagra
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Hi, I am planning to buy a racing bike since I am planning to do my first triathlon next season. But I do not want to invest an awesome money to the bike. So here is my question: Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra? What do I lose if I use Tiagra, which is cheaper? What is the weight difference or am I missing the point completely? Thanks in advance for any help. Burak -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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"Burak Ilter" wrote: **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Hi, I am planning to buy a racing bike since I am planning to do my first triathlon next season. But I do not want to invest an awesome money to the bike. So here is my question: Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra? What do I lose if I use Tiagra, which is cheaper? What is the weight difference or am I missing the point completely? Well, other racers will look down their noses at you if you don't use at least 105 . The minimal weight difference is, apparently, the main difference. Since you're using this as a tri-bike, will you configure the bike with aerobars? Will you use "barcon" shifters on the aerobars, or road-bike "brifteurs"? If there is one thing you deserve to be warned against, it's the odd bottom bracket choices on these three component sets: -Tiagra uses a square-taper BB, which sorta works okay for small people like me, and sorta doesn't work very well for very long for many large or powerful people. -105 currently uses the Shimano "Hollowtech" splined BB. For various reasons, this BB is ill-starred and on its way out. 2005 may be the last year that any Shimano group uses it. If possible, I would choose an ISIS-standard crank and BB (many makers sell road-bike cranks using ISIS splines). Ultegra used to use the Hollowtech BB, but as of 2005 is using the "Hollowtech II" pinch-bolt BB. this appears to be a vastly superior drive setup to the old Hollowtech stuff. -- Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com Verus de parvis; verus de magnis. |
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Ryan Cousineau wrote in message ...
In article , "Burak Ilter" wrote: **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Hi, I am planning to buy a racing bike since I am planning to do my first triathlon next season. But I do not want to invest an awesome money to the bike. So here is my question: Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra? What do I lose if I use Tiagra, which is cheaper? What is the weight difference or am I missing the point completely? Well, other racers will look down their noses at you if you don't use at least 105 . The minimal weight difference is, apparently, the main difference. Since you're using this as a tri-bike, will you configure the bike with aerobars? Will you use "barcon" shifters on the aerobars, or road-bike "brifteurs"? If there is one thing you deserve to be warned against, it's the odd bottom bracket choices on these three component sets: -Tiagra uses a square-taper BB, which sorta works okay for small people like me, and sorta doesn't work very well for very long for many large or powerful people. -105 currently uses the Shimano "Hollowtech" splined BB. For various reasons, this BB is ill-starred and on its way out. 2005 may be the last year that any Shimano group uses it. If possible, I would choose an ISIS-standard crank and BB (many makers sell road-bike cranks using ISIS splines). Ultegra used to use the Hollowtech BB, but as of 2005 is using the "Hollowtech II" pinch-bolt BB. this appears to be a vastly superior drive setup to the old Hollowtech stuff. I agree with everything above. The tiagra crank seems to be a bit bellow the others as far as design. I would avoid it. The rest of the group is ok. I personaly ride a mix of tiagra & 105 & it has worked great for 2 years. I'm very pleased. Keep in mind i only ride for fun & fitness. If i did much racing i might think different. The weight diff. in the 3 groups is not much. |
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Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra?
What do I lose if I use Tiagra, which is cheaper? What is the weight difference or am I missing the point completely? The Tiagra hub is significantly worse than the 105, which is nearly as good as the Ultegra. |
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Thanks for the answers, I will compare the part weights for the sets from the Shimano site and select according to the prices I get. And I will choose the crank with your tips' help. Since I am just planning to complete the race, I will not care what the others think. And for the same reason I am not planning to use aero-bars, in case I would give-up triathlon racing and bike just for fun and fitness. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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"Burak Ilter" wrote in news:412d8020
@post.usenet.com: Hi, I am planning to buy a racing bike since I am planning to do my first triathlon next season. But I do not want to invest an awesome money to the bike. So here is my question: Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra? Are you buying the component group to install on a frame, or are you buying a complete bike? If you're buying components, I'd go with at least 105. The price difference over Tiagra isn't that much, but the components will function more smoothly. If you're buying a complete bike, remember that the price difference between levels also goes to upgraded forks and wheels. Those often have a bigger performance impact than the other components. |
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Hi, I am planning to buy a racing bike since I am planning to do my first
triathlon next season. But I do not want to invest an awesome money to the bike. So here is my question: Should I use an Ultegra set or 105 or Tiagra? What do I lose if I use Tiagra, which is cheaper? What is the weight difference or am I missing the point completely? Thanks in advance for any help. Burak You are paying for more than just the weight difference with 105 vs. Tiagra. Tiagra is not designed as a racing group, and shares less of Shimano's high-end technology than the 105. IOW, Tiagra won't last as long and won't function as well while you have it. I don't have any personal experience with Tiagra or 105, but think you will be much happier if you get the 105 instead of the Tiagra. I don't think the difference between ultegra and 105 is very large. |
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"Burak Ilter" wrote in message ...
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Thanks for the answers, I will compare the part weights for the sets from the Shimano site and select according to the prices I get. And I will choose the crank with your tips' help. Since I am just planning to complete the race, I will not care what the others think. And for the same reason I am not planning to use aero-bars, in case I would give-up triathlon racing and bike just for fun and fitness. Not sure where you are located but in the United States, you can probably buy a complete bike cheaper than the bike kit, i.e. house brand AL frame with Ultegra or 105 from Performancebike, Colorado Cyclist, .. Sell the frame or use it as a spare. |
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