Bicycle Shoes

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.


I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

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On Mar 30, 7:24*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

* * * * * * * * * * In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.

I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. *If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. *I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. *I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. *Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

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I think that my feet are getting smaller. so they are starting to
move around in the Sidi's. It was really bad in those shoes. I can't
tighten it down too much.

Anyways the shoe store is saying to try DMT cycling shoes

I want a shoe that has low achilles heel protectors.

I was look at Saucony running shoes and they are just a tad lower than
the Brooks. I just bought some new brooks in a smaller size ( 12 B).

Everything seems to have become bigger for my feet. They really did
shrink! My arch on the left foot does not seem to collapse as much,
but it collapses less than the right foot.

I don't know if If I should take the shims off the left foot. I had
been using shims to bring the left foot's elevation up for a year,
too.

bill

On 31 Mar, 14:43, Bill wrote:
On Mar 30, 7:24*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:



John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

* * * * * * * * * * In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.

I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. *If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. *I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. *I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. *Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

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replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

I think that my feet are getting smaller. *so they are starting to
move around in the Sidi's. *It was really bad in those shoes. *I can't
tighten it down too much.

Anyways the shoe store is saying to try DMT cycling shoes

I want a shoe that has low achilles heel protectors.

I was look at Saucony running shoes and they are just a tad lower than
the Brooks. *I just bought some new brooks in a smaller size ( 12 B).

Everything seems to have become bigger for my feet. *They really did
shrink! *My arch on the left foot does not seem to collapse as much,
but it collapses less than the right foot.

I don't know if If I should take the shims off the left foot. *I had
been using shims to bring the left foot's elevation up for a year,
too.

bill

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

TJ

On Mar 31, 8:15*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:
On 31 Mar, 14:43, Bill wrote:



On Mar 30, 7:24*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

* * * * * * * * * * In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.

I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. *If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. *I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. *I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. *Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

I think that my feet are getting smaller. *so they are starting to
move around in the Sidi's. *It was really bad in those shoes. *I can't
tighten it down too much.

Anyways the shoe store is saying to try DMT cycling shoes

I want a shoe that has low achilles heel protectors.

I was look at Saucony running shoes and they are just a tad lower than
the Brooks. *I just bought some new brooks in a smaller size ( 12 B).

Everything seems to have become bigger for my feet. *They really did
shrink! *My arch on the left foot does not seem to collapse as much,
but it collapses less than the right foot.

I don't know if If I should take the shims off the left foot. *I had
been using shims to bring the left foot's elevation up for a year,
too.

bill

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

TJ

Should I focus on heel strikes? I only run 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week
every few weeks. During the fall I did this weekly.

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill
wrote:

On Mar 31, 8:15*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:
On 31 Mar, 14:43, Bill wrote:



On Mar 30, 7:24*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

* * * * * * * * * * In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.

I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. *If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. *I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. *I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. *Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

I think that my feet are getting smaller. *so they are starting to
move around in the Sidi's. *It was really bad in those shoes. *I can't
tighten it down too much.

Anyways the shoe store is saying to try DMT cycling shoes

I want a shoe that has low achilles heel protectors.

I was look at Saucony running shoes and they are just a tad lower than
the Brooks. *I just bought some new brooks in a smaller size ( 12 B).

Everything seems to have become bigger for my feet. *They really did
shrink! *My arch on the left foot does not seem to collapse as much,
but it collapses less than the right foot.

I don't know if If I should take the shims off the left foot. *I had
been using shims to bring the left foot's elevation up for a year,
too.

bill

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

TJ

Should I focus on heel strikes? I only run 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week
every few weeks. During the fall I did this weekly.


I don't understand the prescription of running to strengthen arches.
Maybe it makes sense, but I don't get it. If I was trying to
strengthen my arches I'd do things like moving around indoors, on just
my forefoot, while in barefeet or shoes with very flexible soles.

Apart from that, running with an emphasis on heel strikes is not a
good thing to practice -- for most people it's better to run
naturally, or if you want to change things, practice running with feet
landing underneath you. Heel-strike running is usually with the foot
in front of the body on impact, and is slower and probably less
healthy in the long run.

On Apr 1, 7:59*am, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill
wrote:



On Mar 31, 8:15*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:
On 31 Mar, 14:43, Bill wrote:

On Mar 30, 7:24*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Michael Press considered Mon, 30 Mar 2009
11:47:38 -0700 the perfect time to write:

* * * * * * * * * * In general many shoe fitting
problems are solved by getting larger shoes, even
three sizes larger. Do not stint. They are too
large when you start tripping over your own feet.

I'd think the opposite, at least regarding problems at the back of the
foot. *If the shoe is too large the foot will move inside the shoe.
The back of the foot should be locked down.

this is a constant problem for me. *I have very wide feet with dainty
heels. *I do like the more "athletic" type shoes where there's a lot of
stretchy fabric; alternately I have to get leather shoes and it takes a
while for them to break in so they fit me...

but yeah, what he said. *Shoes that move in the heel area are a sure
recipe for blisters (in any activity.)

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

I think that my feet are getting smaller. *so they are starting to
move around in the Sidi's. *It was really bad in those shoes. *I can't
tighten it down too much.

Anyways the shoe store is saying to try DMT cycling shoes

I want a shoe that has low achilles heel protectors.

I was look at Saucony running shoes and they are just a tad lower than
the Brooks. *I just bought some new brooks in a smaller size ( 12 B).

Everything seems to have become bigger for my feet. *They really did
shrink! *My arch on the left foot does not seem to collapse as much,
but it collapses less than the right foot.

I don't know if If I should take the shims off the left foot. *I had
been using shims to bring the left foot's elevation up for a year,
too.

bill

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

TJ

Should I focus on heel strikes? *I only run 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week
every few weeks. *During the fall I did this weekly.

I don't understand the prescription of running to strengthen arches.
Maybe it makes sense, but I don't get it. *If I was trying to
strengthen my arches I'd do things like moving around indoors, on just
my forefoot, while in barefeet or shoes with very flexible soles.

Apart from that, running with an emphasis on heel strikes is not a
good thing to practice -- *for most people it's better to run
naturally, or if you want to change things, practice running with feet
landing underneath you. *Heel-strike running is usually with the foot
in front of the body on impact, and is slower and probably less
healthy in the long run.

I was wondering about it. I am not going to walk barefoot. It is too
tough. I have done nothing for two weeks. I only did a little bit of
walking today. Just walking from the car to the town hall and back
started it up again.

I could feel a little tweak and a mild sensation. I put the heat in
the car on the floor vents and it started to get better.

Right now, I am just wearing the light slippers with 1/2" sole.

I looked at Shimano shoes, today. I tried a 46 pair. I looked at the
MTB version, too.
They were too tight in the toe box. The tongue was going to bite into
my leg. The Heel area was loose in comparison to the toebox. I
thought that it would never work.

Bill

On 1 Apr, 12:59, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill
wrote:

On Mar 31, 8:15*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

Should I focus on heel strikes? *I only run 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week
every few weeks. *During the fall I did this weekly.

I don't understand the prescription of running to strengthen arches.
Maybe it makes sense, but I don't get it. *If I was trying to
strengthen my arches I'd do things like moving around indoors, on just
my forefoot, while in barefeet or shoes with very flexible soles.

Unless there is a serious mechanical defect, I think it is the
quickest way to develop stable foot strength. Walking up stairs
dropping the heel fully below the step, then lifting body weight fully
with the foot is also beneficial and can also be used to keep the calf
muscles stretched.

TJ

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:35:17 -0700 (PDT), Nick L Plate
wrote:

On 1 Apr, 12:59, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill
wrote:

On Mar 31, 8:15*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:

Perhaps you should be doing some running to strengthen those arches.

Should I focus on heel strikes? *I only run 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week
every few weeks. *During the fall I did this weekly.

I don't understand the prescription of running to strengthen arches.
Maybe it makes sense, but I don't get it. *If I was trying to
strengthen my arches I'd do things like moving around indoors, on just
my forefoot, while in barefeet or shoes with very flexible soles.

Unless there is a serious mechanical defect, I think it is the
quickest way to develop stable foot strength. Walking up stairs
dropping the heel fully below the step, then lifting body weight fully
with the foot is also beneficial and can also be used to keep the calf
muscles stretched.

Running seems pretty extreme to me. Walking in shoes with less
support, or exercises like you describe above, are much more
controllable in gaining strength. The impact of running could make
the person strong but could easily cause more injury.

Bill wrote:

I have the Lake shoes. I did not wear them last week. I think that I
need to go to the size down.
My feet were swollen until I got arch support. I think that they have
shrunk after having the arch support for awhile.

Both achilles appeared to be sensitive, but the right achilles tendon
has been problematic and inflammed.

I did not change anything in the setup.

Achilles tendon problems are nothing to screw around with, they can
easily become chronic. From what I understand, the tendon runs in a
sheath which can become scarred after developing small tears. Those
scars can turn a temporary problem into a permanent one.

I'd seek professional help.

On Apr 2, 7:52*am, Peter Cole wrote:
Bill wrote:
I have the Lake shoes. *I did not wear them last week. *I think that I
need to go to the size down.
My feet were swollen until I got arch support. *I think that they have
shrunk after having the arch support for awhile.

Both achilles appeared to be sensitive, but the right achilles tendon
has been problematic and inflammed.

I did not change anything in the setup.

Achilles tendon problems are nothing to screw around with, they can
easily become chronic. From what I understand, the tendon runs in a
sheath which can become scarred after developing small tears. Those
scars can turn a temporary problem into a permanent one.

I'd seek professional help.

LOL. I would like to know which professional that I should seek? I
already had been to a orthopaedic fellow, once. If you are not a
super-star athelete, then you do not get any attention.

The advice that I received was to put a heel lift into the shoe for
now. I have not received any helpful information other than from
posts.

I still think that the shoes need to be addressed. I think that the
high rear of my shoes does not help.