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Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? dkl |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? dkl https://www.google.com/search?site=i...92.fL7vTmmE7Fc https://www.google.com/#q=sora+aero+levers+for+sale |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:24:39 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote:
Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? dkl I don't know if he thought they were the best -- but he did think they were a good value and did like their functionality: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.bicycles.tech/sheldon$20sora$20levers/rec.bicycles.tech/Ecl73QkkcsE/DqWNfMnTBjIJ A shy person asked: - show quoted text - The major problem with Sora is the stigma of low price. Snobs and elitists like to puff themselves up by sneering at equipment that is less expensive than what they use. The principal area they rag on is the fact that the thumb button for rear upshifts/front downshifts is inaccessible from the drops. I've never had an owner of a Sora bike complain about this...most folks don't ride in the drops that much of the time anyway. Shifting from the drops is no more inconvenient with Sora than it is with, say, bar-end shifters, and it is a LOT easier than the down-tube shifters that were the norm through the early '90s. Personally, I prefer this arrangement to that used on the more expensive Shimano models, because I find it less confusing. With Sora, the upshift and downshift operations are done by different digits, moving in different directions. Other road STIs use two parallel levers, moving in the same direction. A unique Sora advantage is that they have adjustable reach on the brake levers, so they can be adjusted for comfortable use by people with small hands. No other drop-bar brake levers have this feature (though all decent MTN levers do.) It shifts as well as anything, and has had no worse reliability than anything else. The Sora cranks are basically identical to Tiagra, but the chainrings are steel. Steel chainrings are heavier, but they are also much more long-lasting than aluminum, so this could be a plus for many high-mileage riders. There are basically two things I don't care for in the Sora group: The rear derailer seems cheesy. It is limited to 8-speeds. If they had a 9-speed version, I would have bought it instead of the 105 I use on my Hetchins. One caution, though. While all Shimano hubs are basically equal in quality, less expensive bikes often get less careful setup/assembly in shops. All new bikes come with the hubs adjusted too tight, and the assembler is supposed to adjust them--but this is a step often skipped on less expensive models, and if it is omitted, the hubs are liable to wear out prematurely. Sheldon "Anti-Snob" Brown |
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:The principal area they rag on is the fact that the thumb button for :rear upshifts/front downshifts is inaccessible from the drops. I've :never had an owner of a Sora bike complain about this...most folks don't :ride in the drops that much of the time anyway. Shifting from the drops He never talked to me. I've never owned a set of sora shifters, but I've rented a number with this style of shifter, and, oh, god, does it ****ing suck. :is no more inconvenient with Sora than it is with, say, bar-end :shifters, and it is a LOT easier than the down-tube shifters that were :the norm through the early '90s. I'd rather have either. :It shifts as well as anything, and has had no worse reliability than :anything else. No complaints about the rest of the group set, and of course, things have changed since Sheldon wrote that. -- sig 71 |
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On 1/8/2016 4:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? One member of my extended family has them. I've ridden his bike. They work fine, but his bike is low-mileage, if you get my drift. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/8/2016 4:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote: Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? One member of my extended family has them. I've ridden his bike. They work fine, but his bike is low-mileage, if you get my drift. -- - Frank Krygowski Are they aero levers that are shaped like brifters? thx |
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On 1/9/2016 3:00 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/8/2016 4:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote: Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? One member of my extended family has them. I've ridden his bike. They work fine, but his bike is low-mileage, if you get my drift. -- - Frank Krygowski Are they aero levers that are shaped like brifters? They are brifters with the tiny thumb button protruding from the side, instead of the extra lever in line with the brake lever. I don't know if you'd call them "aero," since the cable comes out horizontally toward the center of the bike. I'm working by memory here. I should be visiting in a few days, and I can try to remember to take a look. It's on a lower end Cannondale from, oh, maybe 2005 or so. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 4:15:06 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:24:39 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote: Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? dkl I don't know if he thought they were the best -- but he did think they were a good value and did like their functionality: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.bicycles.tech/sheldon$20sora$20levers/rec.bicycles.tech/Ecl73QkkcsE/DqWNfMnTBjIJ A shy person asked: - show quoted text - The major problem with Sora is the stigma of low price. Snobs and elitists like to puff themselves up by sneering at equipment that is less expensive than what they use. The principal area they rag on is the fact that the thumb button for rear upshifts/front downshifts is inaccessible from the drops. I've never had an owner of a Sora bike complain about this...most folks don't ride in the drops that much of the time anyway. Shifting from the drops is no more inconvenient with Sora than it is with, say, bar-end shifters, and it is a LOT easier than the down-tube shifters that were the norm through the early '90s. Personally, I prefer this arrangement to that used on the more expensive Shimano models, because I find it less confusing. With Sora, the upshift and downshift operations are done by different digits, moving in different directions. Other road STIs use two parallel levers, moving in the same direction. A unique Sora advantage is that they have adjustable reach on the brake levers, so they can be adjusted for comfortable use by people with small hands. No other drop-bar brake levers have this feature (though all decent MTN levers do.) It shifts as well as anything, and has had no worse reliability than anything else. The Sora cranks are basically identical to Tiagra, but the chainrings are steel. Steel chainrings are heavier, but they are also much more long-lasting than aluminum, so this could be a plus for many high-mileage riders. There are basically two things I don't care for in the Sora group: The rear derailer seems cheesy. It is limited to 8-speeds. If they had a 9-speed version, I would have bought it instead of the 105 I use on my Hetchins. One caution, though. While all Shimano hubs are basically equal in quality, less expensive bikes often get less careful setup/assembly in shops. All new bikes come with the hubs adjusted too tight, and the assembler is supposed to adjust them--but this is a step often skipped on less expensive models, and if it is omitted, the hubs are liable to wear out prematurely. Sheldon "Anti-Snob" Brown Those are brifters. I'm talking about aero levers. dkl |
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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/9/2016 3:00 PM, Doug Landau wrote: On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/8/2016 4:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote: Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? One member of my extended family has them. I've ridden his bike. They work fine, but his bike is low-mileage, if you get my drift. -- - Frank Krygowski Are they aero levers that are shaped like brifters? They are brifters with the tiny thumb button protruding from the side, instead of the extra lever in line with the brake lever. I don't know if you'd call them "aero," since the cable comes out horizontally toward the center of the bike. I'm working by memory here. I should be visiting in a few days, and I can try to remember to take a look. It's on a lower end Cannondale from, oh, maybe 2005 or so. -- - Frank Krygowski Not talking about brifters. Talking about aero levers. |
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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:39:37 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/9/2016 3:00 PM, Doug Landau wrote: On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/8/2016 4:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote: Sheldon said that Sora were the best aero levers ever made, but I can't find the post and don't remember why he thought that was the case. Anybody have any? One member of my extended family has them. I've ridden his bike. They work fine, but his bike is low-mileage, if you get my drift. -- - Frank Krygowski Are they aero levers that are shaped like brifters? They are brifters with the tiny thumb button protruding from the side, instead of the extra lever in line with the brake lever. I don't know if you'd call them "aero," since the cable comes out horizontally toward the center of the bike. I'm working by memory here. I should be visiting in a few days, and I can try to remember to take a look. It's on a lower end Cannondale from, oh, maybe 2005 or so. -- - Frank Krygowski Not talking about brifters. Talking about aero levers. I haven't looked, but IFAIK, Sora road levers were always brifters. Straight aero levers -- you need something like these: http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-BL-R40.../dp/B000F5LLWG. -- Jay Beattie. |
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