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Old March 19th 04, 06:41 PM
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"James Annan" wrote in message
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It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.



I keep hearing about this issue with greater frequency, but I've been
running discs for a few years now and it's only popped out once in that
time. It was my fault on that occasion, I realized afterwards that I hadn't
properly tightend the QR.

Now that it's been mentioned though, I have noticed the "Lawyer Lip" on my
Bomber. It's a few years old too but it definitely keeps the wheel on even
with the QR loosened.


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Old March 19th 04, 06:53 PM
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"TBF" wrote in message
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"James Annan" wrote in message
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It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.



I keep hearing about this issue with greater frequency, but I've been
running discs for a few years now and it's only popped out once in that
time. It was my fault on that occasion, I realized afterwards that I

hadn't
properly tightend the QR.

Now that it's been mentioned though, I have noticed the "Lawyer Lip" on my
Bomber. It's a few years old too but it definitely keeps the wheel on even
with the QR loosened.


Don't rely on the lawyer lips like you would have back with cantilevers.

Greg


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Old March 19th 04, 07:02 PM
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In rec.bicycles.tech dvt wrote:
I might be dense, but I can't see how that would help. I *can* see that
putting the calipers in front of the fork would help, but the right hand
side? What am I missing?


putting it on the right side of the fork would also put it on the front
of the fork if you're using existing brakes.
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Old March 19th 04, 08:31 PM
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"James Annan" wrote in message
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It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.


It's actually 1 Yr and 3 days :-(

Been wondering whether to get involved but decided I'd would.
Comments in reply to other posts
Legal action still pending, really ought to get on with it before someone
else goes the same way.

For anyone wondering what I'm on about see the link below

Russ
www.russ-appeal.org.uk


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Old March 19th 04, 08:43 PM
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Simon Daw wrote:
QR skewers certainly tighten the bearings, although it's something
that's always bemused me somewhat; how do they make so much
difference when the cones are locked onto a pretty un-compressable
axle? I suppose it's just that very, very little movement of the
cones on the axle is required to make a difference.


The axle does compress. Doesn't take much to affect the bearings.

~PB


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Old March 19th 04, 08:46 PM
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"TBF" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
"James Annan" wrote in message
...
It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.



I keep hearing about this issue with greater frequency, but I've been
running discs for a few years now and it's only popped out once in that
time. It was my fault on that occasion, I realized afterwards that I

hadn't
properly tightend the QR.

Now that it's been mentioned though, I have noticed the "Lawyer Lip" on my
Bomber. It's a few years old too but it definitely keeps the wheel on even
with the QR loosened.


Not when you're braking really hard with discs it doesn't

That was a line I used in the past, and I'd never had a wheel come out,
thought I was safe, had even tried to convince James it wasn't a problem.
Then it did - at the worst possible moment, 25 plus mph - very steep rocky
downhill. QR must have loosened somehow, don't know how but if I hadn't done
it up properly it'd have come out in the three hours previously, I knew
something wasn't right so tried to slow down, braking hard just ripped the
front wheel out and I endoed big time. I'll never get the chance again, all
because some idiot bike designers never thought about a clearly obvious
problem with discs and caliper positioning ripping wheels out of dropouts,
had the caliper been on the other side of the fork leg braking would have
forced the QR into rather than out of the drop outs and I'd have at least
been able to lose a lot more speed before stacking but would likely have
been able to brake to a stop.

It's only a matter of time until some-one else injurs themselves big time
too.

Russ
www.russ-appeal.org.uk



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Old March 19th 04, 10:03 PM
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David Reuteler wrote:

Or you can just turn the QR around so the lever is on the right side.


? what does that fix?


Prevents the problem.
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Old March 19th 04, 10:18 PM
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David Reuteler wrote:

Or you can just turn the QR around so the lever is on the right side.


? what does that fix?


Prevents the problem.


how?
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Old March 19th 04, 11:40 PM
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"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
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Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)


Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.


It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-)



 




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