Isabelle...

....necessary on a bicycle?

Strange message on my answering machine yesterday; Lt. Col. (retd.)
Larrington saying he'd seen an article in "The Times" stating that bells
were to become compulsory on all bicycles as of Saturday. Did he? Are
they? I couldn't find any mention of it among the Thunderer's webby
neurons, but would have imagined that were it /actually/ the case, it might
have merited at least a passing mention in here...

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:21:10 +0100, Dave Larrington
wrote:

...necessary on a bicycle?

Strange message on my answering machine yesterday; Lt. Col. (retd.)
Larrington saying he'd seen an article in "The Times" stating that bells
were to become compulsory on all bicycles as of Saturday. Did he? Are
they? I couldn't find any mention of it among the Thunderer's webby
neurons, but would have imagined that were it /actually/ the case, it
might
have merited at least a passing mention in here...

It's when the law requiring most new bicycles to be fitted with a bell
comes in. It was mentioned some time ago. It doesn't affect existing
bicycles and it doesn't require you to keep the bell attached if you buy a
new bike.

Colin
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:21:10 +0100, Dave Larrington wrote:

...necessary on a bicycle?

Strange message on my answering machine yesterday; Lt. Col. (retd.)
Larrington saying he'd seen an article in "The Times" stating that bells
were to become compulsory on all bicycles as of Saturday. Did he? Are
they?
I think this was mentioned in Cycling Plus a month or so ago.
All NEW bikes must be supplied with a bell, if I'm not wrong,
in the same manner as front/rear reflectors.

I can dig out the article if you need it?

Dave Larrington wrote:
...necessary on a bicycle?

Strange message on my answering machine yesterday; Lt. Col. (retd.)
Larrington saying he'd seen an article in "The Times" stating that
bells were to become compulsory on all bicycles as of Saturday. Did
he? Are they? I couldn't find any mention of it among the
Thunderer's webby neurons, but would have imagined that were it
/actually/ the case, it might have merited at least a passing mention
in here...

Wasn't it always the case that bikes had to be equipped with some sort of
audible warning device which includes voice!! I don't know where I read this
but I've thought this the case for years.

John Hearns wrote:
I think this was mentioned in Cycling Plus a month or so ago.
All NEW bikes must be supplied with a bell, if I'm not wrong,
in the same manner as front/rear reflectors.

All new bikes supplied complete, IIRC. Which means if the bike is
supplied without pedals fitted then it also doesn't need to have a bell
fitted.

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:06:49 +0100, Danny Colyer
wrote:

John Hearns wrote:
I think this was mentioned in Cycling Plus a month or so ago.
All NEW bikes must be supplied with a bell, if I'm not wrong,
in the same manner as front/rear reflectors.

All new bikes supplied complete, IIRC. Which means if the bike is
supplied without pedals fitted then it also doesn't need to have a bell
fitted.
What about unicycles - where do you fit a bell?

Regards!
Stephen

Steve McGinty quipped:
What about unicycles - where do you fit a bell?

That's actually an interesting point. Would unicycles be covered by the
legislation?

Years ago I fitted a bell to the front grab rail on the saddle of my DM
Ringmaster. It worked well, was easy to use while riding (although
using it may have looked a little obscene), but I gave up after breaking
a couple of bells during UPD's.

I currently have a bulb horn mounted to the seat post of my Coker. I
daresay I could mount a bell there, but I'd have a job reaching it.

Anyway, I found the relevant legislation:
url:http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20031101.htm

The SI clearly refers only to 2-wheelers. But I was wrong about it
applying only to bicycles supplied complete. Tandems and most
recumbents are exempt.

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"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Anyway, I found the relevant legislation:
url:http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20031101.htm

The SI clearly refers only to 2-wheelers. But I was wrong about it
applying only to bicycles supplied complete. Tandems and most
recumbents are exempt.

Okay, which bit of a saddle has to be below 635 mm? My seat (okay, not a
saddle, I suppose, but I doubt Plod or Regina would accept this
prevarication, lawyers would leap on it) is 615mm at it's lowest, but 1120
at the top.

In this case it's not relevant, Lenty was supplied with a bell, but oddly,
no front reflector.

E

Danny Colyer le opined the following...
John Hearns wrote:
I think this was mentioned in Cycling Plus a month or so ago.
All NEW bikes must be supplied with a bell, if I'm not wrong,
in the same manner as front/rear reflectors.

All new bikes supplied complete, IIRC. Which means if the bike is
supplied without pedals fitted then it also doesn't need to have a bell
fitted.

Does this also apply to reflectors? If so, why in god's name did EBC
insist on supplying my OCR with irritating front and rear reflectors.
The front one clattered on the gear cables which made cobbles fun! That
and the ones on the wheels which pull the wheels round until they're at
the bottom. If you're going to insist on putting reflectors on wheels,
they should at least be paired symmetrically.

Jon

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:34:07 GMT, "Frobnitz"
wrote in message
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Okay, which bit of a saddle has to be below 635 mm?

(3) In these Regulations a reference to the height of the saddle
of a bicycle is a reference to the height above the ground of the part
of the seating area of the saddle which is furthest from the ground
when the vehicle to which the saddle is attached is vertical and the
saddle is raised to the fullest extent compatible with safety and any
pneumatic tyres on the wheels of the vehicle are fully inflated.


KUATB!

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