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All time "Greats" updated to include 2008 Tour
Although some don't agree with the points allocation, this is still a
good index http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/rid...ed_overall.txt -- Davey Crockett - **** the New World Order Fly your Nation's Flag http://darkstar1.azurservers.com:608...lishdragon.jpg http://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/dixie.gif |
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All time "Greats" updated to include 2008 Tour
On 28 jul, 08:22, Davey Crockett wrote:
Although some don't agree with the points allocation, this is still a good index http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/rid...g_combined_ove... -- Davey Crockett * - **** the New World Order Fly your Nation's Flaghttp://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/englishdragon.jpghttp://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/dixie.gif Climbers as Virenque and Chiapucci (I loved them, dont get me wrong) are rather high up there, higher than for example Pantani and Museeuw. Considering the standard is Palmares I doubt that is objectively defendable. But it's impossible to please all I guess^^ |
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All time "Greats" updated to include 2008 Tour
On 28 jul, 08:22, Davey Crockett wrote:
Although some don't agree with the points allocation, this is still a good index http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/rid...g_combined_ove... -- Davey Crockett * - **** the New World Order Fly your Nation's Flaghttp://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/englishdragon.jpghttp://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/dixie.gif Ahhh no stages counted...... well, quite frankly that in itself makes it a completely idiotic list (looks at Darrigade and Cipolini). Also an enormous bias towards GT's. |
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All time "Greats" updated to include 2008 Tour
On Jul 28, 9:26 am, Tuschinski wrote:
On 28 jul, 08:22, Davey Crockett wrote: Although some don't agree with the points allocation, this is still a good index http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/rid...g_combined_ove... -- Davey Crockett - **** the New World Order Fly your Nation's Flaghttp://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/rbr/englishdragon.jpghttp://dar... Ahhh no stages counted...... well, quite frankly that in itself makes it a completely idiotic list (looks at Darrigade and Cipolini). Also an enormous bias towards GT's. Another example, Kohl ahead of Cancellara. Also, Cipollini might be on the current riders list. -ilan |
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All time "Greats" updated to include 2008 Tour
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, Tuschinski wrote: On 28 jul, 08:22, Davey Crockett wrote: Although some don't agree with the points allocation, this is still a good index http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/rid...g_combined_ove... Ahhh no stages counted...... well, quite frankly that in itself makes it a completely idiotic list (looks at Darrigade and Cipolini). Also an enormous bias towards GT's. I don't know if that's unreasonable. In all seriousness, you'd cross-check any points system like this by first figuring out if the obvious suspects appear at the top of the list. Indeed, you could practically start with, as a first cut, "what points systems give Merckx a dominant advantage over any other rider all-time?" Post-hoc points systems are somewhat flawed in that riders, given a scoring structure and race format, always race to win the format. If you applied a points format to a scratch race (or vice versa) after the event, anyone would scoff at your revised scoring as meaningless. Similarly, the importance of various events at various times (and even to riders of various nationalities) varied greatly, and it's really hard to account for that over time. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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