"Still, it's their own time they're wasting"

On 17/05/2012 18:02, wrote:
On May 17, 2:32 pm, Simon wrote:
QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go...

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What a load of old nonsense. Any vehicle may stop at the kerb to let a
passenger out. A pirat... er, sorry... "private hire car"... has no need to
enter a bus lane to pick up a passenger like a taxi because it isn't a taxi
and therefore is not licensed to ply for hire.

On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:58:16 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote:

On 17/05/2012 13:01, Mr Benn wrote:
"While I can post all day on full pay"

I haven't heard Numb Nuts say that recently. Why is that?


I though he got a sever bollocking after the AGM?



I think that he has been banned from using the BP Chemicals, Saltend, Hull
network. That is why he has had to buy a Wi-Fi dongle and has to pay to use
his own lap top when at work.

I thought someone had said that he had promised not to post to usenet during
work's time.

I wonder if anyone will complain to HR? A shareholder perhaps?

Are there any BP shareholders reading this group I wonder?

I also understand that it will be a formal disciplinary for the third repeat
offence :-)

He is good value, isn't he.


--
Simon Mason used to post from BP Chemicals where he works.
He repeatedly said that he was wasting BP's time; and not his own
time - like other posters were.
After the BP AGM in April 2012 Mason suddenly stopped posting from
a BP IP address. People have asked why - but he won't say :-)

On Thu, 17 May 2012 16:45:04 +0100, "Mr Benn" wrote:

"M Wicks" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 1:01 pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:
"While I can post all day on full pay"

I haven't heard Numb Nuts say that recently. Why is that?

STOP STIRRING THE POT. I won't tell you again.

What pot Mr. Wicks?



Is it Justin in disguise - he does seem quite stupid?

On May 17, 6:56*pm, Simon Mason wrote:
On May 17, 6:02*pm, wrote:





On May 17, 2:32*pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go....

--
Simon Mason

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The rev gave me permission before anyone asks again.


He IS your leader is he not?

--
Simon Mason

"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 May 2012 16:45:04 +0100, "Mr Benn"
wrote:

"M Wicks" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 1:01 pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:
"While I can post all day on full pay"

I haven't heard Numb Nuts say that recently. Why is that?

STOP STIRRING THE POT. I won't tell you again.

What pot Mr. Wicks?



Is it Justin in disguise - he does seem quite stupid?

No, Mr. Wicks is in Reading.

On May 18, 7:21*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On May 17, 6:56*pm, Simon Mason wrote:





On May 17, 6:02*pm, wrote:

On May 17, 2:32*pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go...

--
Simon Mason

Copied to urd with permission

The rev gave me permission before anyone asks again.

He IS your leader is he not?

Oops, Steve Firth has just e-mailed me to say that he is the leader of
urd.
Sorry Steve.

--
Simon Mason

On Fri, 18 May 2012 02:31:36 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

On May 18, 7:21*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On May 17, 6:56*pm, Simon Mason wrote:





On May 17, 6:02*pm, wrote:

On May 17, 2:32*pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go...

--
Simon Mason

Copied to urd with permission

The rev gave me permission before anyone asks again.

He IS your leader is he not?

Oops, Steve Firth has just e-mailed me to say that he is the leader of
urd.
Sorry Steve.



How on earth can an email from him saying "You are a lying ****" be
misinterpreted in that way?


--
Simon Mason used to post from BP Chemicals where he works.
He repeatedly said that he was wasting BP's time; and not his own
time - like other posters were.
After the BP AGM in April 2012 Mason suddenly stopped posting from
a BP IP address. People have asked why - but he won't say :-)

On May 17, 2:32*pm, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go...

--
Simon Mason

On 17/05/2012 14:32, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...discrimination

--
Simon Mason


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On May 18, 3:53*pm, Simon Mason wrote:
On May 17, 2:32*pm, Simon Mason wrote:







QUOTE:

Up to 1,000 minicab drivers in Manchester were this morning due to
stage a go-slow protest drive from the Etihad Stadium to Manchester
Town Hall to deliver a petition protesting against what they allege
are discriminatory rules preventing them from stopping in bus lanes to
pick up or drop off passengers, while drivers of Hackney carriages –
or black cabs – are permitted to do so.

The protest has clear echoes of the ongoing dispute in London between
Britain’s biggest private hire operator, Addison Lee, and Transport
for London, with a judicial review due under way to decide whether
current rules which permit licensed cabs to drive in bus lanes but
prevent minicabs for doing so are discriminatory.

Last month, TfL secured a High Court injunction to prevent Addison Lee
drivers from seeking to ignore current rules, which they had been
instructed to do in a letter sent to them by the firm’s founder and
chairman, John Griffin, who had said that the company would indemnify
them in respect of any fines and other costs they incurred as a
result.

Cycle campaigners in London have campaigned against minicabs being
allowed in bus lanes in the city, which are seen as providing a refuge
of sorts for cyclists from much of the capital’s traffic.

Quoted on BBC News, Nigel Murphy Manchester City Council’s executive
member for the environment, maintained that permitting minicabs to use
bus lanes "would affect the reliability of bus services, which huge
numbers of people in Manchester depend upon to get access to work,
education or healthcare.

"Today's protest will do nothing but cause more congestion in the
city, aggravating people who are trying to go about their business."

Speaking on behalf of the Private Hire Association, solicitor James
Parry commented: "We now have something like 2,500 taxi drivers in
Manchester and 1,500 Hackney carriage drivers.

"Anybody who can't get a Hackney carriage, because they don't happen
to have one drive past their door, has to pre-book a vehicle and they
are likely to have a private hire vehicle come to their door.

"They charge more because they can't use the bus lanes so they can't
for example get to Victoria Station easily or as quickly as a Hackney
carriage would.

"That is discriminatory, it is unnecessary and it doesn't serve the
city very well in the Private Hire Association's view."

http://road.cc/content/news/58461-ma...ivers-stage-go...

--
Simon Mason