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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:22:16 GMT, h squared wrote: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....uni-berlin.de Funny. Me too. |
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Stewart Fleming wrote:
Tim Lines wrote: Not a chance. If he was caught with a bag of dope or involved in a sexual relationship with another man, he'd be a goner. But this trivial stuff you mention is easily dimissed. I thought I heard this week that Bush had a man date...? That's SO awful, it's great! -- -------------------- Remove CLOTHES to reply |
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Stewart Fleming wrote:
Tim Lines wrote: Not a chance. If he was caught with a bag of dope or involved in a sexual relationship with another man, he'd be a goner. But this trivial stuff you mention is easily dimissed. I thought I heard this week that Bush had a man date...? That's SO awful, it's great! -- -------------------- Remove CLOTHES to reply |
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"robet" wrote in message .. . IMPEAECHMENT IS THE ONLY RECOURSE NOW. That's a thought, there's plenty of ammo but we would need the likes of Ken Starr to pursue it and make it stick. Question is, could it be done before Bush is out of office, othewise it's useless. |
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"robet" wrote in message .. . IMPEAECHMENT IS THE ONLY RECOURSE NOW. That's a thought, there's plenty of ammo but we would need the likes of Ken Starr to pursue it and make it stick. Question is, could it be done before Bush is out of office, othewise it's useless. |
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Tom Arsenault wrote: I'm thinking it would be better for all of the liberals who said that they were moving out of country if Bush won to stay, and let's reform the system, and get the evil Republicans out of power ASAP. Why? Why stay in this country and defy its constitutional foundations of limited government, individual rights/freedom/liberty, and separation of church and state? You really should emigrate to a country more in tune with you ideals. It is no joke. And of course, the so-called "liberals" and "progressives" aren't either liberal or progressive. These "liberals" and "progressives" are in fact reactionary barbarians simply trying to acquire political control. The so-called "progressives" are intent on imposing their religious beliefs upon the country. For example, today I saw a democrat congressman critiquing the proposed privitization of social security. He called it "immoral" and "stingy" and within the same sentence quoted the *bible* as justification for government sponsored social security!!! He wants to impose his socialist religion upon citizens via taxation at the business end of a gun barrel. Jesse Jackson, a "leader" of the "american left" also is fond of such socialist-religious statements. It goes on and on. Another example of the barbaric reactionary left is that of Mrs. Billary Clinton and her book _It Takes a Village_. If *anything* is more reactionary than to try to impose the collectivist culture of primitive villagers upon the extended market order of human cooperation (a *huge* number of *individuals* acting *privately*), than I don't know what it could be. Of course, primitive villagers and clans-people require collectivisation to survive. This primitive instinctive need has been long obsoleted by the extended market order. The "american left" proposes we live like primitive savages, while calling themselves "progressive." LOL. What worse doublespeak could there possibly be? I've got my problems/arguments with the ideals of most republicans too. But at least they are more consistant, straightforward, and honest about their ideals. The democrats are far more devious, whether intentionally, or out of sheer ignorance (who cares which?). More amusingly, they often promote themselves as "intellectuals," apparently unaware of the savage faith-based collectivist nature of their ideals. Republicans can be taken head-on, but because democrats ("left") are so much more devious, they are currently a much greater menace IMO. Can democrats ever rise above their commonplace stature of useful idiots for tyranny? There is much doubt. I mean, the Republicans hounded Clinton for many years, and finally got him to lie about getting a blow job in the Oval Office, I'm sure that the Democrats, with the right monetary backing, could get some dirt on George W. and get him impeached. But then again, I'm sure that the Republicans would consider that un-patriotic, even though they did the same thing. **** Bush, that guy sucks. What is un-american ("un-patriotic"?) is trying to change the US from a minimalist government (state) into one which government is supposed to solve "social problems," whatever that happens to mean to the particular individual intending to promote his/her own pet project upon other the backs of other free citizens. The primitive reactionary socialist despises freedom, and freedom is the ideal upon which the US is founded. Really, *please leave*. I have no problem taking on the republicans next. To my knowledge, I am the only true liberal who frequents rbr. The other so-called liberals aren't liberals at all. They are socialists, and really the most reactionary (conservative) and primitive of all citizens. It is very perplexing that "conservatives" in the US use the term "liberal" as a term of insult (opprobrium) regarding the "left," as Hayek wrote. You should be free to practice your religion. You are not free to impose it upon me. "I am still puzzled why those in the United States who truly believe in liberty should not only have allowed the left to appropriate this almost indispensable term [liberalism] but should even have assisted by beginning to use it themselves as a term of opprobrium." -- Hayek |
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Tom Arsenault wrote: I'm thinking it would be better for all of the liberals who said that they were moving out of country if Bush won to stay, and let's reform the system, and get the evil Republicans out of power ASAP. Why? Why stay in this country and defy its constitutional foundations of limited government, individual rights/freedom/liberty, and separation of church and state? You really should emigrate to a country more in tune with you ideals. It is no joke. And of course, the so-called "liberals" and "progressives" aren't either liberal or progressive. These "liberals" and "progressives" are in fact reactionary barbarians simply trying to acquire political control. The so-called "progressives" are intent on imposing their religious beliefs upon the country. For example, today I saw a democrat congressman critiquing the proposed privitization of social security. He called it "immoral" and "stingy" and within the same sentence quoted the *bible* as justification for government sponsored social security!!! He wants to impose his socialist religion upon citizens via taxation at the business end of a gun barrel. Jesse Jackson, a "leader" of the "american left" also is fond of such socialist-religious statements. It goes on and on. Another example of the barbaric reactionary left is that of Mrs. Billary Clinton and her book _It Takes a Village_. If *anything* is more reactionary than to try to impose the collectivist culture of primitive villagers upon the extended market order of human cooperation (a *huge* number of *individuals* acting *privately*), than I don't know what it could be. Of course, primitive villagers and clans-people require collectivisation to survive. This primitive instinctive need has been long obsoleted by the extended market order. The "american left" proposes we live like primitive savages, while calling themselves "progressive." LOL. What worse doublespeak could there possibly be? I've got my problems/arguments with the ideals of most republicans too. But at least they are more consistant, straightforward, and honest about their ideals. The democrats are far more devious, whether intentionally, or out of sheer ignorance (who cares which?). More amusingly, they often promote themselves as "intellectuals," apparently unaware of the savage faith-based collectivist nature of their ideals. Republicans can be taken head-on, but because democrats ("left") are so much more devious, they are currently a much greater menace IMO. Can democrats ever rise above their commonplace stature of useful idiots for tyranny? There is much doubt. I mean, the Republicans hounded Clinton for many years, and finally got him to lie about getting a blow job in the Oval Office, I'm sure that the Democrats, with the right monetary backing, could get some dirt on George W. and get him impeached. But then again, I'm sure that the Republicans would consider that un-patriotic, even though they did the same thing. **** Bush, that guy sucks. What is un-american ("un-patriotic"?) is trying to change the US from a minimalist government (state) into one which government is supposed to solve "social problems," whatever that happens to mean to the particular individual intending to promote his/her own pet project upon other the backs of other free citizens. The primitive reactionary socialist despises freedom, and freedom is the ideal upon which the US is founded. Really, *please leave*. I have no problem taking on the republicans next. To my knowledge, I am the only true liberal who frequents rbr. The other so-called liberals aren't liberals at all. They are socialists, and really the most reactionary (conservative) and primitive of all citizens. It is very perplexing that "conservatives" in the US use the term "liberal" as a term of insult (opprobrium) regarding the "left," as Hayek wrote. You should be free to practice your religion. You are not free to impose it upon me. "I am still puzzled why those in the United States who truly believe in liberty should not only have allowed the left to appropriate this almost indispensable term [liberalism] but should even have assisted by beginning to use it themselves as a term of opprobrium." -- Hayek |
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From: gwhite
Why? Why stay in this country and defy its constitutional foundations of limited government, individual rights/freedom/liberty, and separation of church and state? Let me put it to you this way: Because you just got yourself elected President, and you've got some political capital to spend, and you mean to spend it? You really should emigrate to a country more in tune with you ideals. It is no joke. Me ideals? Agreed, not a joke. But seriously, gwhite: not much chance of either Dubbya or me moving anytime soon. "Get over it"? --TP |
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