Bicyclist Fatalities in AZ 2009

On 12/23/2010 6:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Dec 23, 1:21 pm, Duane wrote:

You just got through telling someone that they shouldn't let their
child wear a ski helmet. Who the **** are you to do that?

I did??

What was that exact quote?

Seriously, you _do_ need to take notes!

Your feedback loop is stuck again.

On 12/23/2010 10:07 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 12/23/2010 12:21 PM, Duane Hébert wrote:
[...]
What I fear is that some idiot zealot
like you is going to talk themselves into a position where they
can influence children who don't know better.[...]

T H I N K


O F T H E


C H I L D R E N !


poo-tee-weet.

"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" " wrote in
message ...
On 12/23/2010 8:57 PM, James Steward wrote:
Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:

Now we have the gang together congratulating each other.

And Tom, as usual, not contributing anything of worth.

JS

And the mutual admiration society is a worthwhile contribution?


hush, you are all making a silent contribution
http://www.donateacar.com/

"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" " wrote in
message ...
On 12/23/2010 12:21 PM, Duane Hébert wrote:
[...]
What I fear is that some idiot zealot
like you is going to talk themselves into a position where they
can influence children who don't know better.[...]

T H I N K


O F T H E


C H I L D R E N !

--

That was cute



Here's some more interesting health info for the children

http://www.elitedeals.com/cpl-aa930-...hannelid=FROOG

On Dec 23, 7:27 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 12/23/2010 8:57 PM, James Steward wrote:

T m Sherm n _ wrote:

Now we have the gang together congratulating each other.

And Tom, as usual, not contributing anything of worth.

JS

And the mutual admiration society is a worthwhile contribution?


"Pee-wee: There's a lotta things about me you don't know anything
about, Dottie. Things you wouldn't understand. Things you couldn't
understand. Things you shouldn't understand.
Dottie: I don't understand.
Pee-wee: You don't wanna get mixed up with a guy like me. I'm a loner,
Dottie. A rebel. So long, Dott."

On Nov 22, 9:07 am, Dan O wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:



snip


Most bike crashes in any locale do not involve motor vehicles. Most
bike crashes are simple falls.

I thought you said bike crashes were very complex, chaotic events
(something I'd agree with based on much experience).


(Clicked on this bookmark, re-read and realized... )

So *most* bike crashes are simple falls (how fast head impact?), yet
helmets rated for 14 mph impacts do no good?

snip

cyclists will rush to say "No, that's not right; cycling really is
dangerous!"

(indexing... )


snip

On Dec 24, 7:21 am, Dan O wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:07 am, Dan O wrote:

On Nov 21, 9:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip



Most bike crashes in any locale do not involve motor vehicles. Most
bike crashes are simple falls.

I thought you said bike crashes were very complex, chaotic events
(something I'd agree with based on much experience).

(Clicked on this bookmark, re-read and realized... )

So *most* bike crashes are simple falls (how fast head impact?), yet
helmets rated for 14 mph impacts do no good?

snip

cyclists will rush to say "No, that's not right; cycling really is
dangerous!"

(indexing... )

snip

Just realized how I got this bookmark:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...?&q=paronychia

Never did see a doctor for it, but did call the nurse and ask her what
to do (I don't think they were keeping track of how it happened,
though I suppose they might categorize in the computer as I mentioned
that I fell off a bike). I'd have never called her except for the
infection. Looks all better now.

On Dec 24, 8:21*am, Dan O wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:07 am, Dan O wrote:

On Nov 21, 9:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip



Most bike crashes in any locale do not involve motor vehicles. *Most
bike crashes are simple falls.

I thought you said bike crashes were very complex, chaotic events
(something I'd agree with based on much experience).

(Clicked on this bookmark, re-read and realized... )

So *most* bike crashes are simple falls (how fast head impact?), yet
helmets rated for 14 mph impacts do no good?

snip

cyclists will rush to say "No, that's not right; cycling really is
dangerous!"

(indexing... )

snip

On Dec 24, 8:21*am, Dan O wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:07 am, Dan O wrote:

On Nov 21, 9:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip



Most bike crashes in any locale do not involve motor vehicles. *Most
bike crashes are simple falls.

I thought you said bike crashes were very complex, chaotic events
(something I'd agree with based on much experience).

(Clicked on this bookmark, re-read and realized... )

So *most* bike crashes are simple falls (how fast head impact?), yet
helmets rated for 14 mph impacts do no good?

snip

cyclists will rush to say "No, that's not right; cycling really is
dangerous!"

(indexing... )

snip

One thing we can count on from Krygowski is his inconsistency.
He'll say whatever he needs to in order support his argument TODAY,
regardless of what he said yesterday. We still do not know who these
anonymous hordes are who he claims are yelling "DANGER! DANGER!"
DR

On Dec 24, 10:21*am, Dan O wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:07 am, Dan O wrote:

On Nov 21, 9:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip



Most bike crashes in any locale do not involve motor vehicles. *Most
bike crashes are simple falls.

I thought you said bike crashes were very complex, chaotic events
(something I'd agree with based on much experience).

(Clicked on this bookmark, re-read and realized... )

So *most* bike crashes are simple falls (how fast head impact?)

Most bike crashes have zero head impact.

The dreaded connection between riding bikes and significant head
injuries is a gross exaggeration. Look at the data.

Bike accidents are no more productive of head injuries than pedestrian
accidents, and pedestrians have far more of them (over triple the
number) per mile.

yet helmets rated for 14 mph impacts do no good?

They haven't, at least regarding serious head injuries. Look at the
data.

Read this article, if you haven't done so yet. Read it again if
necessary.
http://bicycleuniverse.info/eqp/helmets-nyt.html

- Frank Krygowski