Does a trike put me on a collision course with traffic?

"Tony B" wrote in message
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Jack May wrote:

Will never happen becaue there are too many possible alternative energy
sources that will become available at much less than $10 per equivalent
gallon of gas.

name one that is plentiful in HUGE ammounts, does not involve the whole
world's infrastructure being replaced and does not mean food production
will suffer heavily.

oh, and you can't have "cake and a person's legs" as the answer :-)

No danger of that from Jack. :-) He feels that nonproductive exercise is
essentially energy neutral, but as soon as it becomes useful it's somehow
really expensive to truck in all the fuel needed to power it.

"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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"Pat" wrote in message
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On Mar 31, 1:00 pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
Having other types of bikes in my collection, I'm about to get off the
beaten path and get either a ROAD TANDEM BIKE or a FANCY UPRIGHT
TRIKE. Well, I like them both but the road tandem would necessarily
put me on the road AMONG THE BEASTS all the time, while the trike I
can use on the back streets and on a new path being built overlooking
the ocean (cool). But I'd be tempted to ride it on the streets
sometimes, squarely TAKING THE LANE because then I'd be more of a
vehicle.

What's your thought, I'd be safer in the trike than on the road
tandem, or should I start planning my funerals?

WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION?http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

:As much as I had hoped that this would be some sort of April Fool's
:joke, it isn't.
:
:http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregio...ry/312617.html

3 men riding on a 3-wheeled cycle....pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!

I think they meant a three wheeler ATV...

Ok...that makes sense then...I guess the writer has never seen a trike...(a
3-wheeled cycle)

On Apr 2, 9:21*am, ComandanteBanana wrote:
You may say, "What the Banana Republic of Miami has to do with
bicycling?" But it does. The old people in Miami voted for issues
dealing with Castro, and not for bike facilities. They never will,
because only the young care about it. That's why we need a Banana
Revolution...

"I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to
die in." -George McGovern

A REVOLUTION FOR THE YOUNG?
Sorry, guys, but this revolution is for the young --or at least for
the young at heart-- who care about the future, and about a quality of
life surrounding their needs.

Regrettably, they are not being enticed into politics. Important
issues like building bike facilities are kept out of the political
discourse. Simply, cunning politicians lure the elderly, who are
easily duped with the politics of fear*. Remember the 2000 elections
in Miami-Dade County. In other words: the Banana Republic relies on
the old and ignorant, while the Banana Revolution appeals to the young
and hopeful...

*80% of the young who don't vote do not live in democracy.

"Well, there's no hiding the fact that bananas taste better, and don't
contribute to Global Warming and War."

http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...63034463138037

With all the political stuff happening in NY, I keep telling everyone
that the Dems should use it as a marketing tool. Think of the
possible slogans, like "Party Like A Democrat" or "When Democrats Say
Party, They Mean It". What party would you rather join, the party of
drugs and high-priced hookers or the party of old men in airport
stalls. Now THAT"S something to think about.

The same way this author says...

"with the exception of the areas where the wealthy people live... the
streets are filthy"
http://banana-republic.net/

We can say the bike paths and safer roads are located where the
moneyed people are. They put up traffic calming measures, or simply
block off their streets.

ANOTHER SIGN OF BANANA REPUBLIC.

"Tony B" wrote in message
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Jack May wrote:

Will never happen becaue there are too many possible alternative energy
sources that will become available at much less than $10 per equivalent
gallon of gas.

name one that is plentiful in HUGE ammounts, does not involve the whole
world's infrastructure being replaced and does not mean food production
will suffer heavily.

oh, and you can't have "cake and a person's legs" as the answer :-)

The most efficient alternative to oil at this time is switch grass probably
using genetic engineering to develop "bugs", water and sunlight to convert
it to alcohol or hydrogen in mass quantities. It looks like hydrogen can be
stored at about the same pressure as the center of Saturn using bucky tubes
while storing 8% of the bucky tube as hydrogen.

We have no choice but to switch to alternative fuels because we can't
continue much longer with oil. There is no food production involved with
switch grass and the studies are clear that it will produce a large net
energy after processing.

Lots of money going into alternative energy sources because a lot see large
amounts of money in that business along with greatly reduced fuel prices
along with green house gas reductions. There are lots of solutions that are
being pursued and some of the look like they have a fairly good chance of
going into use.

The world is not going back to living in caves without using fuel or using
bikes or transit.

"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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On Apr 1, 11:19 am, Jens Müller wrote:
ComandanteBanana schrieb:

Yeah, but if I'm riding a bike in traffic, I'm giving my back to the
enemy...

If you are thinking about road traffic as war, you are definitely wrong
on public highways.

I see people getting either intimidated by it, or getting killed by
it.

A car is a weapon.

No they are not. You are just far too stupid to survive.

"Jack May" wrote in message
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"Tony B" wrote in message
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Jack May wrote:

Will never happen becaue there are too many possible alternative energy
sources that will become available at much less than $10 per equivalent
gallon of gas.

name one that is plentiful in HUGE ammounts, does not involve the whole
world's infrastructure being replaced and does not mean food production
will suffer heavily.

oh, and you can't have "cake and a person's legs" as the answer :-)

The most efficient alternative to oil at this time is switch grass
probably using genetic engineering to develop "bugs", water and sunlight
to convert it to alcohol or hydrogen in mass quantities. It looks like
hydrogen can be stored at about the same pressure as the center of Saturn
using bucky tubes while storing 8% of the bucky tube as hydrogen.

We have no choice but to switch to alternative fuels because we can't
continue much longer with oil. There is no food production involved with
switch grass and the studies are clear that it will produce a large net
energy after processing.

Another choice we could make is to quit building our environment so that so
many fuels of all types are necessary. We have all kinds of choices...

"Tim McNamara" wrote in message
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In article
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ComandanteBanana wrote:


A trike is no more of a vehicle than a bicycle. The trike riders I have
met report that drivers give them more room on the road because they are
an unusual veicle. Drivers may assume that the rider is infirm in some
way, too.

It seems like a lot of the trike riders are infirm. I plan on getting one
because I have a rare disease where my muscles get weaker the more that I
use them. I recover by resting to reduce the anti-bodies that attack my
muscle communications with the nerves.

On regular bike I would fall over eventually and be badly hurt. With a
trike I can stop and rest sitting on the trike seat until my muscles recover
in 10 minutes or so.

I will not be on the road but on a "pedway"along the SF Bay shoreline that
as no crossing traffic.

On Apr 2, 4:45*pm, "Amy Blankenship"
wrote:
"Jack May" wrote in message

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"Tony B" wrote in message
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Jack May wrote:

Will never happen becaue there are too many possible alternative energy
sources that will become available at much less than $10 per equivalent
gallon of gas.

name one that is plentiful in HUGE ammounts, does not involve the whole
world's infrastructure being replaced and does not mean food production
will suffer heavily.

oh, and you can't have "cake and a person's legs" as the answer :-)

The most efficient alternative to oil at this time is switch grass
probably using genetic engineering to develop "bugs", water and sunlight
to convert it to alcohol or hydrogen in mass quantities. *It looks like
hydrogen can be stored at about the same pressure as the center of Saturn
using bucky tubes while storing 8% of the bucky tube as hydrogen.

We have no choice but to switch to alternative fuels because we can't
continue much longer with oil. * There is no food production involved with
switch grass and the studies are clear that it will produce a large net
energy after processing.

Another choice we could make is to quit building our environment so that so
many fuels of all types are necessary. *We have all kinds of choices...- Hide quoted text -

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You have cause and effect backwards. You can't force the building of
society to use less fuel. You have to wait until fuel prices go up
and then society will adapt to it by re-engineering itself. The
market will prevail.

"Pat" wrote in message
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On Apr 2, 4:45 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
wrote:
Another choice we could make is to quit building our environment so that
so
many fuels of all types are necessary. We have all kinds of choices...-
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You have cause and effect backwards. You can't force the building of
society to use less fuel. You have to wait until fuel prices go up
and then society will adapt to it by re-engineering itself. The
market will prevail.

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I said choice we could make, not thing someone could force on us/we could
force on each other. I think we can choose to do things without being
forced (even by the market). But I guess in America the belief in divine
predestination has given way to the idea that we must do whatever is
cheapest. I choose free will.