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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes
on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers. Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Pete -- Peter Grange |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
Peter Grange wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers ....and about the reduction of available standing space it causes (no small matter on a London commuter train). Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. Reading between the lines, he's saying that some users of folding bikes are dropped off at the station by spouses in 4WDs ("kiss and ride" mode), presumably to use the bike only at the London end. So the sweating (in their particlar cases) should really only apply on the return journey. |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
"JNugent" wrote in message ... Peter Grange wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers ...and about the reduction of available standing space it causes (no small matter on a London commuter train). No worse than prams, suitcases, any other piece of moderatly sized luggage. Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. Reading between the lines, he's saying that some users of folding bikes are dropped off at the station by spouses in 4WDs ("kiss and ride" mode), presumably to use the bike only at the London end. So the sweating (in their particlar cases) should really only apply on the return journey. Maybe the person dropping them off is en route to somewhere else so would be making the journey anyway. |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
On 17/04/2008 20:12, Peter Grange said,
Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers. Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf He seems to have missed the point that if the 4x4 wasn't dropping someone off at the station it would probably be driven all the way to the workplace thereby chucking out even more pollution. -- Paul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
On 17 Apr, 20:23, JNugent wrote:
Peter Grange wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers ...and about the reduction of available standing space it causes (no small matter on a London commuter train). Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. Reading between the lines, he's saying that some users of folding bikes are dropped off at the station by spouses in 4WDs ("kiss and ride" mode), presumably to use the bike only at the London end. So the sweating (in their particlar cases) should really only apply on the return journey. My Brompton fits nicely in the gap between seats on the 321s on the WCML. The 350s are much worse (fewer seats, less standing room, no baggage space), and from memory the Electrostars on the fast Sevenoaks trains are the same. Personally I use my Brompton to get to work as its faster and cheaper than the tube, and the tube is dangerously overcrowded at Euston in the morning anyway. Perhaps Mr Pyle would prefer the brompton wielders took up space on the tube. From memory the Jubilee line at London Bridge is rather bad. Additionally, I wonder if he has the same problem with suitcases? |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
On 17 Apr, 22:24, Paul Weaver wrote:
Additionally, I wonder if he has the same problem with suitcases? How many oily suitcases with sharp sticky-out bits have you seen? Ian |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
The Real Doctor wrote:
On 17 Apr, 22:24, Paul Weaver wrote: Additionally, I wonder if he has the same problem with suitcases? How many oily suitcases with sharp sticky-out bits have you seen? How many Bromptons which have been modified to fold the opposite way round from the factory original have you seen? -- JimP Crosspost deleted. |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
Peter Grange wrote:
Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers. Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Pete He assumes people ride bikes in London for environmental reasons. I actually don't know anyone who rides a bike for that reason. Mainly they do it to save time, convenience and exercise. |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
On 17/04/2008 21:57, Paul Boyd wrote:
He seems to have missed the point that if the 4x4 wasn't dropping someone off at the station it would probably be driven all the way to the workplace thereby chucking out even more pollution. I think as far as he's concerned they wouldn't then be taking space in his train carriage, so they wouldn't be his problem. -- Danny Colyer http://www.redpedals.co.uk Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis |
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Letterin today's (17/4) Telegraph - "Vicious Cycles"
Adam Lea wrote:
"JNugent" wrote: Peter Grange wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6mnhdf Letter from someone in Sevenoaks about people carrying folding bikes on trains, and then having the temerity to stand and sweat next to fellow passengers ...and about the reduction of available standing space it causes (no small matter on a London commuter train). No worse than prams, suitcases, any other piece of moderatly sized luggage. That's true. But you don't actually get many of any of those on a commuter train, either. Don't quite get his remarks about 4wd's though. Reading between the lines, he's saying that some users of folding bikes are dropped off at the station by spouses in 4WDs ("kiss and ride" mode), presumably to use the bike only at the London end. So the sweating (in their particlar cases) should really only apply on the return journey. Maybe the person dropping them off is en route to somewhere else so would be making the journey anyway. I'm not criticising it! |
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